From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>, Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
qemu block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
Jiang Yunhong <yunhong.jiang@intel.com>,
Dong Eddie <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
qemu devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
Gonglei <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Yang Hongyang <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>,
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH COLO v3 01/14] docs: block replication's description
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:55:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150423095509.GF8811@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <553769A1.8000509@cn.fujitsu.com>
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On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 05:28:01PM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
> On 04/22/2015 05:18 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 05:28:01PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >> On 21/04/2015 03:25, Wen Congyang wrote:
> >>>>> Please do not introduce "<name>+colo" block drivers. This approach is
> >>>>> invasive and makes block replication specific to only a few block
> >>>>> drivers, e.g. NBD or qcow2.
> >>> NBD is used to connect to secondary qemu, so it must be used. But the primary
> >>> qemu uses quorum, so the primary disk can be any format.
> >>> The secondary disk is nbd target, and it can also be any format. The cache
> >>> disk(active disk/hidden disk) is an empty disk, and it is created before run
> >>> COLO. The cache disk format is qcow2 now. In theory, it can be ant format which
> >>> supports backing file. But the driver should be updated to support colo mode.
> >>>
> >>>> A cleaner approach is a QMP command or -drive options that work for any
> >>>> BlockDriverState.
> >>>
> >>> OK, I will add a new drive option to avoid use "<name>+colo".
> >>
> >> Actually I liked the "foo+colo" names.
> >>
> >> These are just internal details of the implementations and the
> >> primary/secondary disks actually can be any format.
> >>
> >> Stefan, what was your worry with the +colo block drivers?
> >
> > Why does NBD need to know about COLO? It should be possible to use
> > iSCSI or other protocols too.
>
> Hmm, if you want to use iSCSI or other protocols, you should update the driver
> to implement block replication's control interface.
>
> Currently, we only support nbd now.
I took a quick look at the NBD patches in this series, it looks like
they are a hacky way to make quorum dynamically reconfigurable.
In other words, what you really need is a way to enable/disable a quorum
child or even add/remove children at run-time.
NBD is not the right place to implement that. Add APIs to quorum so
COLO code can use them.
Or maybe I'm misinterpreting the patches, I only took a quick look...
Stefan
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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-03 10:01 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 00/14] Block replication for continuous checkpoints Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 01/14] docs: block replication's description Wen Congyang
2015-04-20 15:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-04-21 1:25 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-21 15:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-22 9:18 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-04-22 9:28 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-23 9:55 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2015-04-23 10:11 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-22 9:31 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-22 10:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 9:00 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-23 9:14 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-23 10:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 10:17 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-23 10:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 10:40 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-23 10:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 11:35 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-23 11:36 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-23 11:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 12:05 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-23 12:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 12:19 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-23 12:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-24 2:01 ` Fam Zheng
2015-04-24 2:16 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-24 7:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-24 7:55 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-24 8:58 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-24 9:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-24 9:38 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-24 9:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-24 9:53 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-24 10:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-27 9:37 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-04-29 8:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-29 8:37 ` Gonglei
2015-04-30 14:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-05-05 15:23 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-05-06 2:26 ` Dong, Eddie
2015-05-06 2:49 ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-08 8:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-05-08 9:34 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-05-08 9:39 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 9:55 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-23 9:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 9:37 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-23 9:41 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-22 9:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-04-22 9:42 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-22 10:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 02/14] quorum: allow ignoring child errors Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 03/14] NBD client: connect to nbd server later Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 04/14] Add new block driver interfaces to control block replication Wen Congyang
2015-04-22 12:56 ` Eric Blake
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 05/14] quorum: implement block driver interfaces for " Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 06/14] NBD client: " Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 07/14] allow writing to the backing file Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 08/14] Allow creating backup jobs when opening BDS Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 11:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 09/14] block: Parse "backing_reference" option to reference existing BDS Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 10/14] util/hbitmap: Add an API to reset all set bits in hbitmap Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 11:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-01 16:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " John Snow
2015-05-07 2:20 ` Wen Congyang
2015-05-07 18:32 ` John Snow
2015-05-08 0:59 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 11/14] Backup: clear all bitmap when doing block checkpoint Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 11:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-07 1:45 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 12/14] qcow2: support colo Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 13/14] skip nbd_target when starting block replication Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 14/14] Don't allow a disk use backing reference target Wen Congyang
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