From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
hangaohuai@huawei.com,
"Huangpeng (Peter)" <peter.huangpeng@huawei.com>,
QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Shannon Zhao <shannon.zhao@linaro.org>,
Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com>,
Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/2] virtio: Move host features to backends
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 20:35:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150429203525-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5540EE07.6020502@de.ibm.com>
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 04:43:19PM +0200, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> Am 29.04.2015 um 12:32 schrieb Michael S. Tsirkin:
> > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:52:15AM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> >> On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:17:55 +0200
> >> Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Am 28.04.2015 um 20:32 schrieb Michael S. Tsirkin:
> >>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 08:14:44PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 04:35:16PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 03:24:19PM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 14:16:40 +0100
> >>>>>>> Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 28 April 2015 at 14:13, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> The patches look correct to me too, but I want s390
> >>>>>>>>> cleaned up so it does not include COMMON_FEATURES
> >>>>>>>>> in 100 places, and I prefer merging it all together.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It seems a bit harsh to ask Shannon to do s390 cleanup when
> >>>>>>>> he doesn't have any access to s390 guests or test cases...
> >>>>>>>> Making S390 put COMMON_FEATURES in the right places seems
> >>>>>>>> to me like a separate bit of s390-specific cleanup.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yep, see my other reply... I'm not quite sure what's wrong with
> >>>>>>> event_idx on virtio-blk for s390-virtio, or I would gladly make this
> >>>>>>> consistent with the other transports. Any hints appreciated :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is this still happening?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is possible that what was missing was
> >>>>>> 92045d80badc43c9f95897aad675dc7ef17a3b3f
> >>>>>> and/or
> >>>>>> a281ebc11a6917fbc27e1a93bb5772cd14e241fc
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Found this:
> >>>>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.qemu/280334/focus=280357
> >>>>> so it's unlikely: these commits are from 2012, you saw
> >>>>> issues in 2014.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We really need to fix it. virtio 1 work will be much easier if
> >>>>> we can just move features into virtio dev.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, we have to understand why event_idx breaks for the s390-virtio transport.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm beginning to suspect this is a wrong implementation of barriers.
> >>>> Questions:
> >>>> - which compiler to you use?
> >>>> - can you pls disassemble code for smp_wmb smp_rmb and smp_mb?
> >>>> They all must do br %r14 I think, and this is what
> >>>> s390x-linux-gnu-gcc generated for me:
> >>>> s390x-linux-gnu-gcc (GCC) 4.9.1
> >>>
> >>> s390 has strong memory ordering. Reads are in order, writes are in order.
> >>> bcr 14,0 or bcr 15,0 then only serialize the reads against the writes.
> >>> So smp_rmb and smp_wmb can be implemented as no-ops like QEMU.
> >>> If your change "fixes" the issue then we have a problem somewhere else
> >>
> >> And (surprise, surprise) virtio-blk now works - but it also works when
> >> I back out the atomic.h change again. No barrier problems :)
> >>
> >> Good news is that we can change s390-virtio to be just like the other
> >> transports. Although I'd like to understand why it was broken before.
> >> Maybe a guest change?
> >
> > Or a compiler change? Try compiling some old release, see what happens.
> > Anyway, let's move DEFINE_VIRTIO_COMMON_FEATURES into the base class
> > now. Can you send a patch pls?
>
> 3.17 as guest fails, 3.18 as guest works. Not sure yet why.
>
Fascinating. block core changes? bisect will tell.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-29 18:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-28 11:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/2] virtio: Move host features to backends shannon.zhao
2015-04-28 11:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 1/2] virtio-net: Move DEFINE_VIRTIO_NET_FEATURES to virtio-net shannon.zhao
2015-04-28 11:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 2/2] virtio-scsi: Move DEFINE_VIRTIO_SCSI_FEATURES to virtio-scsi shannon.zhao
2015-04-28 12:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/2] virtio: Move host features to backends Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-28 12:52 ` Peter Maydell
2015-04-28 13:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-28 13:20 ` Cornelia Huck
2015-04-28 14:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-28 13:06 ` Peter Maydell
2015-04-28 13:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-28 13:16 ` Peter Maydell
2015-04-28 13:24 ` Cornelia Huck
2015-04-28 14:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-28 18:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-28 18:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-28 18:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-29 8:17 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-04-29 8:52 ` Cornelia Huck
2015-04-29 10:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-29 14:33 ` Cornelia Huck
2015-04-29 18:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-29 14:43 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-04-29 18:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2015-04-29 19:49 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-04-29 20:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-30 15:50 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-04-28 18:34 ` Peter Maydell
2015-04-28 18:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-04-29 9:55 ` Shannon Zhao
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