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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	qemu block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	armbru@redhat.com, jcody@redhat.com,
	Jiang Yunhong <yunhong.jiang@intel.com>,
	Dong Eddie <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	qemu devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	Gonglei <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Yang Hongyang <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 01/14] docs: block replication's description
Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 16:23:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150505152355.GN2126@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150427093741.GA15658@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com>

* Stefan Hajnoczi (stefanha@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 11:36:35AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 24/04/2015 11:38, Wen Congyang wrote:
> > >> > 
> > >> > That can be done with drive-mirror.  But I think it's too early for that.
> > > Do you mean use drive-mirror instead of quorum?
> > 
> > Only before starting up a new secondary.  Basically you do a migration
> > with non-shared storage, and then start the secondary in colo mode.
> > 
> > But it's only for the failover case.  Quorum (or a new block/colo.c
> > driver or filter) is fine for normal colo operation.
> 
> Perhaps this patch series should mirror the Secondary's disk to a Backup
> Secondary so that the system can be protected very quickly after
> failover.
> 
> I think anyone serious about fault tolerance would deploy a Backup
> Secondary, otherwise the system cannot survive two failures unless a
> human administrator is lucky/fast enough to set up a new Secondary.

I'd assumed that a higher level management layer would do the allocation
of a new secondary after the first failover, so no human need be involved.

Dave

> Stefan


--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-05 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-03 10:01 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 00/14] Block replication for continuous checkpoints Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 01/14] docs: block replication's description Wen Congyang
2015-04-20 15:30   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-04-21  1:25     ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-21 15:28       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-22  9:18         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-04-22  9:28           ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-23  9:55             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-04-23 10:11               ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-22  9:31         ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-22 10:12           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23  9:00             ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-23  9:14               ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-23 10:05                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 10:17                   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-23 10:33                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 10:40                       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-23 10:44                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 11:35                           ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-23 11:36                           ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-23 11:53                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 12:05                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-23 12:11                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 12:19                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-23 12:23                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-24  2:01                                       ` Fam Zheng
2015-04-24  2:16                                         ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-24  7:47                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-24  7:55                                             ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-24  8:58                                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-24  9:04                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-24  9:38                                                   ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-24  9:36                                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-24  9:53                                                       ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-24 10:03                                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-27  9:37                                                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-04-29  8:29                                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-29  8:37                                                           ` Gonglei
2015-04-30 14:56                                                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-05-05 15:23                                                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2015-05-06  2:26                                                           ` Dong, Eddie
2015-05-06  2:49                                                             ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-08  8:42                                                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-05-08  9:34                                                             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-05-08  9:39                                                             ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08  9:55                                                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-23  9:26               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23  9:37                 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-23  9:41                 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-22  9:29       ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-04-22  9:42         ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-22 10:39   ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 02/14] quorum: allow ignoring child errors Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 03/14] NBD client: connect to nbd server later Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 04/14] Add new block driver interfaces to control block replication Wen Congyang
2015-04-22 12:56   ` Eric Blake
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 05/14] quorum: implement block driver interfaces for " Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 06/14] NBD client: " Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 07/14] allow writing to the backing file Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 08/14] Allow creating backup jobs when opening BDS Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 11:06   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 09/14] block: Parse "backing_reference" option to reference existing BDS Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 10/14] util/hbitmap: Add an API to reset all set bits in hbitmap Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 11:05   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-01 16:47     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " John Snow
2015-05-07  2:20       ` Wen Congyang
2015-05-07 18:32         ` John Snow
2015-05-08  0:59           ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 11/14] Backup: clear all bitmap when doing block checkpoint Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 11:09   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-07  1:45     ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 12/14] qcow2: support colo Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 13/14] skip nbd_target when starting block replication Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 14/14] Don't allow a disk use backing reference target Wen Congyang

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