From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56248) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ypehc-0005fG-DG for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2015 11:24:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ypehb-0006qK-LC for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2015 11:24:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 16:23:56 +0100 From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" Message-ID: <20150505152355.GN2126@work-vm> References: <5538E459.5030801@redhat.com> <20150424020149.GL2723@ad.nay.redhat.com> <5539A78D.1020206@cn.fujitsu.com> <5539F4F6.10507@redhat.com> <5539F702.7040708@cn.fujitsu.com> <20150424085841.GC2139@work-vm> <553A070E.8030909@redhat.com> <553A0F18.4010501@cn.fujitsu.com> <553A0EA3.9080400@redhat.com> <20150427093741.GA15658@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150427093741.GA15658@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 01/14] docs: block replication's description List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Stefan Hajnoczi Cc: Kevin Wolf , Fam Zheng , Lai Jiangshan , qemu block , armbru@redhat.com, jcody@redhat.com, Jiang Yunhong , Dong Eddie , qemu devel , Max Reitz , Gonglei , Paolo Bonzini , Yang Hongyang , zhanghailiang * Stefan Hajnoczi (stefanha@redhat.com) wrote: > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 11:36:35AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > > > > > > On 24/04/2015 11:38, Wen Congyang wrote: > > >> > > > >> > That can be done with drive-mirror. But I think it's too early for that. > > > Do you mean use drive-mirror instead of quorum? > > > > Only before starting up a new secondary. Basically you do a migration > > with non-shared storage, and then start the secondary in colo mode. > > > > But it's only for the failover case. Quorum (or a new block/colo.c > > driver or filter) is fine for normal colo operation. > > Perhaps this patch series should mirror the Secondary's disk to a Backup > Secondary so that the system can be protected very quickly after > failover. > > I think anyone serious about fault tolerance would deploy a Backup > Secondary, otherwise the system cannot survive two failures unless a > human administrator is lucky/fast enough to set up a new Secondary. I'd assumed that a higher level management layer would do the allocation of a new secondary after the first failover, so no human need be involved. Dave > Stefan -- Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK