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From: Michael Mueller <mimu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@kernel.org>, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	"Jason J. Herne" <jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Daniel Hansel <daniel.hansel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	Andreas Faerber <afaerber@suse.de>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 04/17] Extend HMP command info cpus to display accelerator id and model name
Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 15:44:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150506154439.3e151cb1@bee> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150506133355.GD17796@thinpad.lan.raisama.net>

On Wed, 6 May 2015 10:33:55 -0300
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 08:59:56AM -0400, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> > On Wed, 6 May 2015 07:38:53 -0300
> > Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 09:32:58AM +0200, Michael Mueller wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 5 May 2015 10:14:32 -0300
> > > > Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 04:53:18PM +0200, Michael Mueller wrote:
> > > > > > The HMP command info cpus now displays the CPU model name and the
> > > > > > backing accelerator if part of the CPUState.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > (qemu) info cpus
> > > > > > * CPU #0: (halted) model=2827-ga2 accel=kvm thread_id=1679
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Michael Mueller <mimu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > > > > > Acked-by: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do we really need this? I mean: I expect the amount of CPU data we
> > > > > provide to QMP clients to grow a lot in the near future, but that
> > > > > doesn't mean HMP users need all that data to be printed by "info cpus".
> > > > 
> > > > Where do you see the limit of what is worth to be shown an what not.
> > > > I personally use "info cpus" less then sporadic but already got a comment
> > > > internally on that information being worthwhile to be shown.  
> > > 
> > > I really don't know, but I think we shouldn't add stuff to HMP unless we
> > > have a good reason. For each new piece of data in HMP I would like to at
> > > least see the description of a real use case that justifies adding it to
> > > HMP and not just implementing a simple script on top of QMP.
> > > 
> > > For accel info we already have "info kvm" that is not ideal but is
> > > enough for current use cases, isn't it? CPU model name information seems
> > > to be more useful, but if it is just for debugging, people can just run
> > > QMP query-cpus command.
> > > 
> > > Luiz, what do you think?
> > 
> > I don't see a problem with that. HMP is a debugging interface anyways.
> > Actually, I think it's a good test-case for QMP having a high-level
> > in-tree client (vs. qmp-shell, which is too low-level).
> > 
> > If the problem is that a command is dumping too much information to
> > the point of hurting usability, we can split the command or add a '-a'
> > option or something like that.
> 
> Thanks! If HMP is seen as a debugging interface, my main objections
> aren't valid.
> 
> That said, I would prefer to keep the command output cleaner and add
> only the "model" field, as people can use "info kvm" for the accel info
> by now.

Ok, I buy that and will kick the accel name out again.

Michael

> 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-06 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-27 14:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 00/17] s390 cpu model implementation Michael Mueller
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 01/17] Introduce stub routine cpu_desc_avail Michael Mueller
2015-05-05 13:55   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-05 16:12     ` Michael Mueller
2015-05-05 17:41       ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-06  9:17         ` Michael Mueller
2015-05-06 11:23           ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-06 16:23             ` Michael Mueller
2015-05-06 17:06               ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-07  7:35                 ` Michael Mueller
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 02/17] Add accelerator id and model name to CPUState Michael Mueller
2015-05-05 13:26   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-05 14:36     ` Eric Blake
2015-05-05 14:46       ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-06  9:28         ` Michael Mueller
2015-05-06  9:59     ` Michael Mueller
2015-05-06 11:41       ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-07  7:55         ` Michael Mueller
2015-05-07 15:04           ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 03/17] Extend QMP command query-cpus to return accelerator id and model name Michael Mueller
2015-05-05 13:11   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-06  9:49     ` Michael Mueller
2015-05-06 11:33       ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 04/17] Extend HMP command info cpus to display " Michael Mueller
2015-05-05 13:14   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-06  7:32     ` Michael Mueller
2015-05-06 10:38       ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-06 12:59         ` Luiz Capitulino
2015-05-06 13:33           ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-06 13:44             ` Michael Mueller [this message]
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 05/17] Add optional parameters to QMP command query-cpu-definitions Michael Mueller
2015-05-06 12:42   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-07  7:37     ` Michael Mueller
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 06/17] target-s390x: Introduce S390 CPU facilities Michael Mueller
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 07/17] target-s390x: Generate facility defines per S390 CPU model Michael Mueller
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 08/17] target-s390x: Introduce S390 CPU models Michael Mueller
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 09/17] target-s390x: Define S390 CPU model specific facility lists Michael Mueller
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 10/17] target-s390x: Add S390 CPU model alias definition routines Michael Mueller
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 11/17] target-s390x: Add KVM VM attribute interface for S390 CPU models Michael Mueller
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 12/17] target-s390x: Add S390 CPU class initialization routines Michael Mueller
2015-05-05 14:34   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-06  8:02     ` Michael Mueller
2015-05-06 12:20       ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 13/17] target-s390x: Prepare accelerator during S390 CPU object realization Michael Mueller
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 14/17] target-s390x: Initialize S390 CPU model name in CPUState Michael Mueller
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 15/17] target-s390x: Extend arch specific QMP command query-cpu-definitions Michael Mueller
2015-05-05 18:40   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-06 15:31     ` Michael Mueller
2015-05-06 16:00       ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-06 16:27         ` Michael Mueller
2015-05-06 12:37   ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-05-06 14:48     ` Michael Mueller
2015-05-11 16:59       ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 16/17] target-s390x: Introduce S390 CPU facility test routine Michael Mueller
2015-04-27 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 17/17] target-s390x: Enable S390 CPU model usage Michael Mueller

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