From: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
"kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu" <kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>,
Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC/RFT PATCH v2 0/3] KVM: Introduce KVM_MEM_UNCACHED
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 15:36:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150514133637.GE12812@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA99J_Yq_6CyawSutD6DYB3mP-v=GtxiMvayqdUPC2cNrQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 02:11:59PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 14 May 2015 at 14:03, Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:37:46AM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> >> On 14 May 2015 at 11:31, Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> > Forgot to (4): switch from setting userspace's mapping to
> >> > device memory to normal, non-cacheable. Using device memory
> >> > caused a problem that Alex Graf found, and Peter Maydell suggested
> >> > using normal, non-cacheable instead.
> >>
> >> Did you check that non-cacheable is definitely the correct
> >> kind of Normal memory attribute we want? (ie not write-through).
> >
> > I was concerned that write-through wouldn't be sufficient. If the
> > guest writes to its non-cached memory, and QEMU needs to see what
> > it wrote, then won't write-through fail to work? Unless we some
> > how invalidate the cache first?
>
> Well, I meant more that the correct mapping for userspace is
> the same as the guest, whatever that is, and so somebody needs
> to look at what the guest actually does rather than merely
> hoping NormalNC is OK. (For instance, do we need to provide
> support for QEMU to map both NC and writethrough?)
>
Ah, we assume the guest is mapping it as device memory, and in
this version of the series, I ensure that it is at least NC with
the S2 attributes. I don't think we can look at what some guests
do with some devices to come up with anything beyond (poor?)
heuristics. I prefer that we force both the guest and QEMU to NC
(or guest chooses Device and QEMU is forced to NC) to make sure
we get it right.
drew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-14 13:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-13 11:31 [Qemu-devel] [RFC/RFT PATCH v2 0/3] KVM: Introduce KVM_MEM_UNCACHED Andrew Jones
2015-05-13 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/RFT PATCH v2 1/3] arm/arm64: pageattr: add set_memory_nc Andrew Jones
2015-05-14 11:05 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-05-14 13:46 ` Andrew Jones
2015-05-15 14:51 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-05-18 15:53 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-05-19 10:03 ` Andrew Jones
2015-05-19 11:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-05-19 11:38 ` Andrew Jones
2015-05-20 10:01 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-05-20 11:24 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-05-23 1:08 ` Mario Smarduch
2015-05-25 17:11 ` Andrew Jones
2015-05-27 1:08 ` Mario Smarduch
2015-05-13 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/RFT PATCH v2 2/3] KVM: promote KVM_MEMSLOT_INCOHERENT to uapi Andrew Jones
2015-05-14 10:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 10:34 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-05-13 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/RFT PATCH v2 3/3] arm/arm64: KVM: implement 'uncached' mem coherency Andrew Jones
2015-05-14 10:55 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-05-14 13:32 ` Andrew Jones
2015-05-15 15:02 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-05-15 17:04 ` Andrew Jones
2015-05-15 20:16 ` Jérémy Fanguède
2015-05-21 2:29 ` Mario Smarduch
2015-05-21 16:50 ` Andrew Jones
2015-05-14 10:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/RFT PATCH v2 0/3] KVM: Introduce KVM_MEM_UNCACHED Christoffer Dall
2015-05-14 11:09 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-05-14 11:29 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-05-14 11:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 11:36 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-05-14 11:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 12:00 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-05-14 12:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 12:24 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-05-14 12:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 12:34 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-05-14 13:01 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-05-14 12:38 ` Peter Maydell
2015-05-14 13:00 ` Andrew Jones
2015-05-14 13:32 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-05-14 13:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 14:19 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-05-14 14:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-15 9:00 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-05-14 10:31 ` Andrew Jones
2015-05-14 10:37 ` Peter Maydell
2015-05-14 13:03 ` Andrew Jones
2015-05-14 13:11 ` Peter Maydell
2015-05-14 13:33 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-05-14 13:36 ` Andrew Jones [this message]
2015-05-15 15:09 ` Christoffer Dall
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