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From: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
To: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, jcody@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	armbru@redhat.com, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	amit.shah@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 01/13] block: Add op blocker type "device IO"
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 10:15:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150525021552.GC7135@ad.nay.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5560B00F.6090006@redhat.com>

On Sat, 05/23 18:51, Max Reitz wrote:
> On 22.05.2015 06:54, Fam Zheng wrote:
> >On Thu, 05/21 15:32, Fam Zheng wrote:
> >>On Thu, 05/21 15:06, Wen Congyang wrote:
> >>>On 05/21/2015 02:42 PM, Fam Zheng wrote:
> >>>>It blocks device IO.
> >>>>
> >>>>All bdrv_op_block_all/blk_op_block_all callers are taken care of:
> >>>>
> >>>>- virtio_blk_data_plane_create
> >>>>- virtio_scsi_hotplug
> >>>>
> >>>>   Device creation, unblock it.
> >>>>
> >>>>- bdrv_set_backing_hd
> >>>>
> >>>>   Backing hd is not used by device, so blocking is OK.
> >>>>
> >>>>- backup_start
> >>>>
> >>>>   Blocking target when backup is running, unblock it.
> >>>Do you forget it?
> >>Oh I think the commit log is wrong: the target image is only written to by
> >>block job, there cannot be a device on it, so it it's similar to
> >>bdrv_set_backing_hd.
> >Correction: if it's blockdev-backup, the target could have a device, in that
> >sense it should be unblocked like block_job_create(). I'll fix it.
> 
> Really? I think it makes sense not to allow I/O on a backup target. At least
> I can't imagine a use case where you'd want to do that... But that doesn't
> necessarily mean anything, of course.

Sure that nobody other than backup job itself should write to backup target,
but it's valid to read it - image fleecing aims to export it through NBD
server. If you attach it back to guest, it is as valid a scenario, isn't it?

So at least for image fleecing, we need to either 1) split device IO blocker to
read and write and only block write on target. 2) don't add device IO blocker
at all, expect the disk's end user to take the responsibility. And I'm afraid
1) will be too complicated.

Fam

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-25  2:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-21  6:42 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 00/13] Fix transactional snapshot with dataplane and NBD export Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 01/13] block: Add op blocker type "device IO" Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  7:06   ` Wen Congyang
2015-05-21  7:32     ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-22  4:54       ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:51         ` Max Reitz
2015-05-25  2:15           ` Fam Zheng [this message]
2015-05-21  8:00   ` Wen Congyang
2015-05-21 12:44     ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-22  6:18       ` Wen Congyang
2015-05-26 14:22   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-26 14:24     ` Max Reitz
2015-05-27  9:07       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-27  9:50         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-27 10:10           ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-27 10:43             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28  2:49               ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-28  8:23                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 10:46                   ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-28 10:52                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 11:11                       ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-28 11:19                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 12:05                           ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-29 11:11                             ` Andrey Korolyov
2015-05-30 13:21                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28  9:40                 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-28 10:55                   ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-28 11:00                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 11:24                       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-28 11:41                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 11:44                         ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-28 11:47                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 12:04                             ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 02/13] block: Add op blocker notifier list Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 03/13] block-backend: Add blk_op_blocker_add_notifier Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 04/13] virtio-blk: Move complete_request to 'ops' structure Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 05/13] virtio-blk: Don't handle output when there is "device IO" op blocker Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:53   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 06/13] virtio-scsi-dataplane: Add "device IO" op blocker listener Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:53   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 07/13] nbd-server: Clear "can_read" when "device io" blocker is set Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:54   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 08/13] blockdev: Block device IO during internal snapshot transaction Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:56   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 09/13] blockdev: Block device IO during external " Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:58   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 10/13] blockdev: Block device IO during drive-backup transaction Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:59   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 11/13] blockdev: Block device IO during blockdev-backup transaction Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 17:05   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 12/13] block: Block "device IO" during bdrv_drain and bdrv_drain_all Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 17:11   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-25  2:48     ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-26 14:21       ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 13/13] block/mirror: Block "device IO" during mirror exit Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 17:21   ` Max Reitz

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