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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, jcody@redhat.com,
	armbru@redhat.com, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	amit.shah@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 01/13] block: Add op blocker type "device IO"
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 13:24:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150528112439.GD3385@noname.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5566F545.9070303@redhat.com>

Am 28.05.2015 um 13:00 hat Paolo Bonzini geschrieben:
> On 28/05/2015 12:55, Fam Zheng wrote:
> > > Indeed. blk_pause/resume would handle everything in one central place
> > > in the block layer instead of spreading the logic across all the block
> > > layer users.
> >
> > Sorry, I'm confused. Do you mean there is a way to implement blk_pause
> > completely in block layer, without the necessity of various notifier handlers
> > in device models?
> 
> How would you do that?  Do you have to keep a queue of pending requests
> in the BlockBackend?  Since bdrv_drain_all may never return (e.g. stuck
> NFS connection with nfs=hard), the guest can force unbounded allocation
> in the host, which is bad.

We already queue requests for things like I/O throttling or
serialisation. Why would this be any worse?

> In addition, the BDS doesn't have a list of BlockBackends attached to
> it.  So you need the BlockBackends to register themselves for
> pause/resume in some way---for example with a notifier list.
> 
> Then it's irrelevant whether it's the device model or the BB that
> attaches itself to the notifier list.  You can start with doing it in
> the device models (those that use ioeventfd), and later it can be moved
> to the BB.  The low-level implementation remains the same.

The reason for doing it in the block layer is that it's in one place and
we can be sure that it's applied. We can still in addition modify
specific users to avoid even trying to send requests, but I think it's
good to have the single place that always ensures correct functionality
of the drain instead of making it dependent on the user.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-28 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-21  6:42 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 00/13] Fix transactional snapshot with dataplane and NBD export Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 01/13] block: Add op blocker type "device IO" Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  7:06   ` Wen Congyang
2015-05-21  7:32     ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-22  4:54       ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:51         ` Max Reitz
2015-05-25  2:15           ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  8:00   ` Wen Congyang
2015-05-21 12:44     ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-22  6:18       ` Wen Congyang
2015-05-26 14:22   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-26 14:24     ` Max Reitz
2015-05-27  9:07       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-27  9:50         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-27 10:10           ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-27 10:43             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28  2:49               ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-28  8:23                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 10:46                   ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-28 10:52                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 11:11                       ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-28 11:19                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 12:05                           ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-29 11:11                             ` Andrey Korolyov
2015-05-30 13:21                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28  9:40                 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-28 10:55                   ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-28 11:00                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 11:24                       ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2015-05-28 11:41                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 11:44                         ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-28 11:47                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-28 12:04                             ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 02/13] block: Add op blocker notifier list Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 03/13] block-backend: Add blk_op_blocker_add_notifier Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 04/13] virtio-blk: Move complete_request to 'ops' structure Fam Zheng
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 05/13] virtio-blk: Don't handle output when there is "device IO" op blocker Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:53   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 06/13] virtio-scsi-dataplane: Add "device IO" op blocker listener Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:53   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 07/13] nbd-server: Clear "can_read" when "device io" blocker is set Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:54   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 08/13] blockdev: Block device IO during internal snapshot transaction Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:56   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 09/13] blockdev: Block device IO during external " Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:58   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 10/13] blockdev: Block device IO during drive-backup transaction Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 16:59   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 11/13] blockdev: Block device IO during blockdev-backup transaction Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 17:05   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 12/13] block: Block "device IO" during bdrv_drain and bdrv_drain_all Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 17:11   ` Max Reitz
2015-05-25  2:48     ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-26 14:21       ` Max Reitz
2015-05-21  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 13/13] block/mirror: Block "device IO" during mirror exit Fam Zheng
2015-05-23 17:21   ` Max Reitz

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