From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49074) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2bVl-0003qp-W2 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 04:37:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2bVg-0000yN-0C for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 04:37:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:37:10 +0200 From: Kevin Wolf Message-ID: <20150610083710.GD4899@noname.str.redhat.com> References: <1426791197-7793-1-git-send-email-mreitz@redhat.com> <20150609085942.GA4329@noname.str.redhat.com> <20150609101958.GA27900@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> <5576D2D4.9050106@redhat.com> <5577048E.6050304@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="f+W+jCU1fRNres8c" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5577048E.6050304@redhat.com> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH v2 0/2] block: driver should override flags in bdrv_open() List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Eric Blake Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi , Stefan Hajnoczi , qemu-devel , qemu block , Max Reitz --f+W+jCU1fRNres8c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 09.06.2015 um 17:21 hat Eric Blake geschrieben: > On 06/09/2015 08:48 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > > I guess my @redhat.com email was received directly from Max because I > > was in CC list. It didn't pass through Mailman. I saw the original, > > unmodified list of CCs with Kevin included. > >=20 > > The @gmail.com email was received from the mailing list. Mailman did > > what you described. >=20 > And that's what makes it so annoying. Original recipients have the full > list, but later additions to the thread don't know who the original > recipients were, only that including the list in reply will also reach > the original recipients (albeit maybe not filtered into the right folder). >=20 > I have no idea if mailman has some tweakable setting that can change > this bad out-of-the-box default of munging cc's that so many lists use, > but even if it does, it requires a list admin to tweak the setting, for > each affected list. >=20 > >=20 > > This means I cannot send "Please CC maintainer" emails anymore because > > I cannot be sure whether the maintainer was CCed! >=20 > Well, unless you know the maintainer is one of the people who does NOT > use the mailman setting of "don't send me duplicate mails" (sadly, we > have deduced that Kevin does use it, making it harder to tell if he is > aware of a thread). Sorry, I wasn't aware about this behaviour. I thought I had finally found the one use case where this option actually makes sense, but it turns out that even if you really want the advertised thing, the option is useless crap. I've fixed my mailman settings and replicated the functionality I really want in additional email filter rules. Hope I got it right and emails that I should see won't be disappearing... Please let me know if you still see me removed from CC lists. Kevin --f+W+jCU1fRNres8c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVd/c2AAoJEH8JsnLIjy/WaHgQAKp4viWQ5JgkbOBOiY7yguTl YrVakzRkgBou3Umo3+2sXHAWA5zarahF7xwJKxgW1hfZLwl0C4GnCcEyzfd82z39 E2d91q3tGS+jw6qqaF+VzmM7QDoe4SI+ztt2rYFCMou3FK7+J+ZSjdRyhM61u8cl sK7ipDxyW3gVsyxxsPelkCdVInczjYRqVTe9aH+Q2yDYroGiIupsp1uQbn6RZR70 G3puTbzF35SBKfv+CI2m9YEiYmF0CjOF2IIZHBLpHsGtR2vdf7AFUXi76irhMo1e antyFp9Lo7NrHI2Q/2V2SuETkQG3dX+SbhtU1qP68mgwXW0y/AQRlLRaHYcJDQ/a JzrM8No4P0fU+tAzGbt4rsEQX/KQoeeVJ9BFHHEeiz2cglcUijTrb71y3WUxflr1 xNM/JRZ6PNUmGa0oHBjenI1HgFMvyOGX2SqfgehgVLDkOuGJE4s0GhDU+Ka9WQ2E 41ysyeTinJZs4jgvn4PpZyBYY6HaNfViwWDFjW5vngYVuFh72cDk2YZYj6frAr14 lakFPqwGU3NuiW3JzOWKTAlaiK8rQMk7F6cOfx1xrqSU5MtxxAkXeR1+Jb4niPLl WUhP+avw6hx8YFll+y9nQrnC7RGyCEQPQ5iVjNPnX9heG08b5fhYP7UY1IZcqJMA aJwPzbo7B2104QvEX49a =x48+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --f+W+jCU1fRNres8c--