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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	qemu block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH v2 0/2] block: driver should override flags in bdrv_open()
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 09:27:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150611082749.GA840@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150610083710.GD4899@noname.str.redhat.com>

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On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:37:10AM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 09.06.2015 um 17:21 hat Eric Blake geschrieben:
> > On 06/09/2015 08:48 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > I guess my @redhat.com email was received directly from Max because I
> > > was in CC list.  It didn't pass through Mailman.  I saw the original,
> > > unmodified list of CCs with Kevin included.
> > > 
> > > The @gmail.com email was received from the mailing list.  Mailman did
> > > what you described.
> > 
> > And that's what makes it so annoying.  Original recipients have the full
> > list, but later additions to the thread don't know who the original
> > recipients were, only that including the list in reply will also reach
> > the original recipients (albeit maybe not filtered into the right folder).
> > 
> > I have no idea if mailman has some tweakable setting that can change
> > this bad out-of-the-box default of munging cc's that so many lists use,
> > but even if it does, it requires a list admin to tweak the setting, for
> > each affected list.
> > 
> > > 
> > > This means I cannot send "Please CC maintainer" emails anymore because
> > > I cannot be sure whether the maintainer was CCed!
> > 
> > Well, unless you know the maintainer is one of the people who does NOT
> > use the mailman setting of "don't send me duplicate mails" (sadly, we
> > have deduced that Kevin does use it, making it harder to tell if he is
> > aware of a thread).
> 
> Sorry, I wasn't aware about this behaviour. I thought I had finally
> found the one use case where this option actually makes sense, but it
> turns out that even if you really want the advertised thing, the option
> is useless crap.
> 
> I've fixed my mailman settings and replicated the functionality I really
> want in additional email filter rules. Hope I got it right and emails
> that I should see won't be disappearing...
> 
> Please let me know if you still see me removed from CC lists.

Thanks!

Stefan

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-11  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-19 18:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/2] block: driver should override flags in bdrv_open() Max Reitz
2015-03-19 18:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/2] " Max Reitz
2015-03-19 18:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/2] iotests: Add tests for overriding BDRV_O_PROTOCOL Max Reitz
2015-04-24 14:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/2] block: driver should override flags in bdrv_open() Max Reitz
2015-06-03 19:49 ` Max Reitz
2015-06-09  8:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-09  8:59   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-06-09 10:19     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-09 11:36       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-06-09 11:49       ` Eric Blake
2015-06-09 14:48         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-09 15:21           ` Eric Blake
2015-06-10  8:37             ` Kevin Wolf
2015-06-11  8:27               ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2015-06-12 14:36 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf

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