From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53689) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2xqD-0006f8-7Y for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 04:28:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2xqC-0005PN-9O for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 04:28:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 09:27:49 +0100 From: Stefan Hajnoczi Message-ID: <20150611082749.GA840@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> References: <1426791197-7793-1-git-send-email-mreitz@redhat.com> <20150609085942.GA4329@noname.str.redhat.com> <20150609101958.GA27900@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> <5576D2D4.9050106@redhat.com> <5577048E.6050304@redhat.com> <20150610083710.GD4899@noname.str.redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150610083710.GD4899@noname.str.redhat.com> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH v2 0/2] block: driver should override flags in bdrv_open() List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Kevin Wolf Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi , qemu-devel , qemu block , Max Reitz --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:37:10AM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote: > Am 09.06.2015 um 17:21 hat Eric Blake geschrieben: > > On 06/09/2015 08:48 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > > > I guess my @redhat.com email was received directly from Max because I > > > was in CC list. It didn't pass through Mailman. I saw the original, > > > unmodified list of CCs with Kevin included. > > >=20 > > > The @gmail.com email was received from the mailing list. Mailman did > > > what you described. > >=20 > > And that's what makes it so annoying. Original recipients have the full > > list, but later additions to the thread don't know who the original > > recipients were, only that including the list in reply will also reach > > the original recipients (albeit maybe not filtered into the right folde= r). > >=20 > > I have no idea if mailman has some tweakable setting that can change > > this bad out-of-the-box default of munging cc's that so many lists use, > > but even if it does, it requires a list admin to tweak the setting, for > > each affected list. > >=20 > > >=20 > > > This means I cannot send "Please CC maintainer" emails anymore because > > > I cannot be sure whether the maintainer was CCed! > >=20 > > Well, unless you know the maintainer is one of the people who does NOT > > use the mailman setting of "don't send me duplicate mails" (sadly, we > > have deduced that Kevin does use it, making it harder to tell if he is > > aware of a thread). >=20 > Sorry, I wasn't aware about this behaviour. I thought I had finally > found the one use case where this option actually makes sense, but it > turns out that even if you really want the advertised thing, the option > is useless crap. >=20 > I've fixed my mailman settings and replicated the functionality I really > want in additional email filter rules. Hope I got it right and emails > that I should see won't be disappearing... >=20 > Please let me know if you still see me removed from CC lists. Thanks! Stefan --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVeUaFAAoJEJykq7OBq3PItwAIAIGipBO5qdLK5tncoQUEsrTf T8RQxGpYu4sPAetgG2M1VBORZWEHi73wA4eZmnATWt7yzW3MTPfxtGJpk1OfCHAB fhjmp1T9zfOND477EiHTLQkIUNNiONc8NHsjkwQ+exlpUEH/TRvNN7cOMYCBBbwL OP2nQUrqCunko5imkFRt5HV7remjz2WIJ1i55bV8Tf3UL8StGh3dgQ9q5XjBUjGC TodSK2a5cX675j2hvKim2p5ooRw3QRKO6WcYTPGBGzikInwe32nr7eu45TrCeD9M kFb9W8WPVtigNG7I6TfLWJGxBjrRMfB8fuujBal1ckHfLr8X7MJrxj+MHH+Cy1U= =7RPJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0--