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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Thibaut Collet <thibaut.collet@6wind.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/2] vhost user: Add RARP injection for legacy guest
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:13:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150611141135-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABUUfwMSPtbnRqZ3YcGZsan_yK4dN3DocfHjKd-gwDHm7ZbxJg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 02:10:48PM +0200, Thibaut Collet wrote:
> I am not sure to understand your remark:
> 
> > It needs to be sent when backend is activated by guest kick
> > (in case of virtio 1, it's possible to use DRIVER_OK for this).
> > This does not happen when VM still runs on source.
> 
> Could you confirm rarp can be sent by backend when the 
> VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_KICK message is received by the backend ?

No - the time to send pakets is when you start processing
the rings.

And the time to do that is when you detect a kick on
an eventfd, not when said fd is set.


> At this time the migration is completed and there is no risk of confusing the
> switch.
> In this case:
>   - there are nothing to do in QEMU to manage legacy guest with
> no GUEST_ANNOUNCE.
>   - All the job is done by the backend on the VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_KICK
> reception. Maybe switch notification of live migration is done with a small
> delay but it works
>   - This patch can be discarded.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>     On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 01:54:22PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > On 06/11/2015 01:49 PM, Thibaut Collet wrote:
>     > > > Yes, but still need a mechanism to notify the backend of migration
>     > > > completion from qemu side if GUEST_ANNOUNCE is not negotiated.
>     > >
>     > > backend is aware of a connection with the guest (with the feature
>     > > negociation) and can send a rarp. This rarp will be always sent by the
>     > > backend when a VM is launched (first start or live migration
>     > > completion) if the GUEST_ANOUNCE is not supported.
>     > > In this case the issue is solved without done everything by QEMU.
>     >
>     > The issue is during migration guest network is still active. So sending
>     > rarp too early in the destination (e.g during VM is launched) may
>     > confuse the switch.  We want it to be sent exactly when the migration is
>     > completed in destination.
> 
>     It needs to be sent when backend is activated by guest kick
>     (in case of virtio 1, it's possible to use DRIVER_OK for this).
>     This does not happen when VM still runs on source.
> 
>     > > If sending a rarp message on the start of te VM is not accceptable, we
>     > > must provide a mechanism similar of the one I have implemented. The
>     > > message content can be empty as the backend is able to create the rarp
>     > > message.
>     >
>     > Yes.
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-11 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-10 13:43 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] Add live migration for vhost user Thibaut Collet
2015-06-10 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/2] vhost user: add support of live migration Thibaut Collet
2015-06-10 13:52   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-10 14:22     ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-10 14:27       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-10 15:24         ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-10 15:34     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-23  6:01   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-10 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/2] vhost user: Add RARP injection for legacy guest Thibaut Collet
2015-06-10 15:34   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-10 15:48     ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-10 16:00       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-10 20:25         ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-10 20:50           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-11  5:34             ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-11  5:39           ` Jason Wang
2015-06-11  5:49             ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-11  5:54               ` Jason Wang
2015-06-11 10:38                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-11 12:10                   ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-11 12:13                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2015-06-11 12:33                       ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-12  7:55                       ` Jason Wang
2015-06-12 11:53                         ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-12 14:28                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-15  7:43                           ` Jason Wang
2015-06-15  8:44                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-15 12:12                               ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-15 12:45                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-15 13:04                                   ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-16  5:29                                 ` Jason Wang
2015-06-16  7:24                                   ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-16  8:05                                     ` Jason Wang
2015-06-16  8:16                                       ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-17  4:16                                         ` Jason Wang
2015-06-17  6:42                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17  7:05                                             ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-18 15:16                                       ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-23  2:12                                         ` Jason Wang
2015-06-23  5:49                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-24  8:31                                             ` Jason Wang
2015-06-24 11:05                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-25  9:59                                                 ` Jason Wang
2015-06-25 11:01                                                   ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-25 12:53                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-25 14:22                                                       ` Thibaut Collet
2015-06-26  4:06                                                         ` Jason Wang
2015-06-16  3:35                               ` Jason Wang

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