From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Cc: mimu@linux.vnet.ibm.com, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
borntraeger@de.ibm.com, Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Jiri Denemark <jdenemar@redhat.com>,
rth@twiddle.net, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] target-i386: "custom" CPU model + script to dump existing CPU models
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:55:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150623175521.GR30318@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55899A5E.3060509@suse.de>
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 07:41:50PM +0200, Andreas Färber wrote:
> Only if you use "-cpu ...,enforce", no?
>
> The KVM feature filtering should take care of dropping features that are
> not available otherwise.
>
> So we seem to be getting to the interesting case of the same machine
> (different from what was said previously!) but different hosts.
>
> The QOM property gives you insights into which feature bits are set for
> the machine for the model (and for s390x I saw QMP extensions to the
> same effect, I thought). That way you could discover features to
> disable. However you'll only ever know which ones work once you've tried
> it once, right?
On this subject, a big problem in QOM in general is that it hasn't
included a distinction between object classes and object instances.
So there's no way for us to introspect what a machine type provides
without actually instantiating a guest with that machine type.
Again allowing libvirt to control the CPU model removes this problem
as libvirt will be able to determine what CPUs it can run on a given
host without having to probe all the different CPU <-> machine type
combinations for the QEMU on that host has.
This in turn simplifies life for apps using libvirt, as they will always
know that "CPUFoo-X.Y" will always mean the exact same thing on all the
hosts they have no matter what QEMU version/machine is in use.
Regards,
Daniel
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2015-06-08 19:07 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] target-i386: "custom" CPU model + script to dump existing CPU models Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-08 19:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] target-i386: Introduce "-cpu custom" Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-08 19:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] scripts: x86-cpu-model-dump script Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-08 20:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] target-i386: "custom" CPU model + script to dump existing CPU models Jiri Denemark
2015-06-09 8:56 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-06-09 13:16 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-23 12:32 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-23 15:08 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-23 15:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-23 15:58 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-23 16:15 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-23 16:25 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-06-23 16:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-23 16:38 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-23 16:44 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-23 17:08 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-23 17:18 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-23 17:27 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-06-23 17:41 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-23 17:45 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-23 17:58 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-23 18:05 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-06-23 18:11 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-23 17:55 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2015-06-23 17:39 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-23 18:35 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-23 19:25 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-23 19:41 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-23 19:53 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-23 20:26 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-23 21:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-23 16:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-06-23 16:47 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-23 17:11 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-23 21:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-24 14:24 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-24 14:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-24 15:44 ` [Qemu-devel] Not introducing new host-side requirements on new machine-type versions (was Re: [PATCH 0/2] target-i386: "custom" CPU model + script to dump existing CPU models) Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-24 15:58 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-24 16:08 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-24 16:15 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-24 15:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-23 17:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] target-i386: "custom" CPU model + script to dump existing CPU models Daniel P. Berrange
2015-06-23 17:29 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-23 17:42 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-23 17:55 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-23 17:58 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-06-23 21:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-24 14:18 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-24 14:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-23 21:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-23 21:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-24 8:52 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-06-24 10:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-24 14:16 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-24 14:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-24 14:35 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-24 14:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-24 15:43 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-24 14:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-24 14:54 ` Peter Maydell
2015-06-24 14:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-24 15:58 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-24 16:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-23 16:40 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-23 16:53 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-06-23 17:10 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-23 17:24 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-23 17:31 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-06-23 16:32 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-06-23 17:01 ` Andreas Färber
2015-06-23 15:51 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-06-23 15:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-23 16:00 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-06-23 16:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-24 9:20 ` Jiri Denemark
2015-06-24 10:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-24 10:31 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-06-24 10:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-24 10:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-16 17:40 ` Eduardo Habkost
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