From: Martin Kletzander <mkletzan@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: snabb-devel@googlegroups.com,
Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.a@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Nikolay Nikolaev <n.nikolaev@virtualopensystems.com>,
Luke Gorrie <luke@snabb.co>,
thomas.long@intel.com, Maxime Leroy <maxime.leroy@6wind.com>,
rkhan@redhat.com, Ouyang Changchun <changchun.ouyang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5] vhost-user: add multi queue support
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 14:00:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150709120034.GD10645@wheatley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150709100019-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>
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On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 10:06:35AM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 12:00:59AM +0200, Maxime Leroy wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 09:23:06AM +0800, Ouyang Changchun wrote:
>> >> Based on patch by Nikolay Nikolaev:
>> >> Vhost-user will implement the multi queue support in a similar way
>> >> to what vhost already has - a separate thread for each queue.
>> >> To enable the multi queue functionality - a new command line parameter
>> >> "queues" is introduced for the vhost-user netdev.
>> >>
>> >> Signed-off-by: Nikolay Nikolaev <n.nikolaev@virtualopensystems.com>
>> >> Signed-off-by: Changchun Ouyang <changchun.ouyang@intel.com>
>> >
>> > So testing turned up a significant issue with the protocol extension in this
>> > one. Specifically, remote has no idea how many queues guest actually
>> > wants to use (it's dynamic, guest changes this at any time).
>> > We need support for enabling and disabling queues dynamically.
>> >
>> > Given we are past hard freeze, and given no one uses this yet
>> > (dpdk upstream did not merge supporting protocol),
>> > I think the best thing to do is to disable this functionality for 2.4.
>> > I will send a patch to do this shortly.
>>
>> You are making a wrong statement, we already use multiqueue for
>> vhost-user and we expected to have this support officially integrated
>> in qemu 2.4.
>>
>> Libvirt 1.2.17 has been released with multiqueue support for
>> vhost-user. (http://libvirt.org/git/?p=libvirt.git;a=commit;h=366c22f2bcf1ddb8253c123f93fd18d1ba9eacd6)
>> It checks against the version of qemu (i.e. 2.4) to know if
>> multiqueue is supported or not by qemu.
>> (http://libvirt.org/git/?p=libvirt.git;a=commitdiff;h=7971723b985b9adc27122a3503e7ab38ced2b57f;hp=e7f5510ef2d28ca0ae0ed5751b1fd3018130d6c1)
>
>Ouch. Just another example showing how version checks are evil.
>We don't want to break libvirt, I agree.
>
Yes, exactly. Unfortunately if QEMU doesn't expose it in any way we
don't have many more options.
>I think what we can do is accept the command line created
>by libvirt, just ignore it and use a single queue only.
>
Anyway, I think it would be pretty OK to disable it *if and only if*
you error out with a sensible error message (e.g. "multiple queues are
not supported yet").
And from 2.5 and next libvirt release we can fix this properly
(QEMU - exposing the capability and libvirt - checking for it).
>> Dynamically enabling/disabling queue between host/guest is a nice
>> feature to have.
>> But it's not mandatory.
>
>It's mandated by the virtio spec.
>
>> You can still configure manually guest and
>> host to use the same number of queues.
>>
>> I think this feature can be implemented later in qemu 2.5.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Maxime
>
>Sorry, that's not how virtio is supposed to work. It must downgrade
>gracefully, not just stop working or crash guest.
>
>--
>MST
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-09 12:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-28 1:23 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5] vhost-user: add multi queue support Ouyang Changchun
2015-07-08 14:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-08 22:00 ` Maxime Leroy
2015-07-09 1:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel] " Ouyang, Changchun
2015-07-09 7:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-09 7:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-09 12:00 ` Martin Kletzander [this message]
2015-07-09 12:24 ` Maxime Leroy
2015-07-09 12:33 ` Martin Kletzander
2015-07-09 12:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-12 6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 0/2] vhost-user " Ouyang Changchun
2015-08-12 6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 1/2] vhost-user: add " Ouyang Changchun
2015-08-13 9:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-13 10:24 ` Maxime Leroy
2015-08-13 10:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-25 3:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel] " Ouyang, Changchun
2015-08-27 13:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-28 1:53 ` Ouyang, Changchun
2015-08-30 6:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-31 8:29 ` Ouyang, Changchun
2015-08-31 11:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-31 15:04 ` Eric Blake
2015-09-01 9:20 ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-09-01 9:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01 12:16 ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-09-01 9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Yuanhan Liu
2015-09-01 10:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01 12:15 ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-09-01 14:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-02 5:45 ` Ouyang, Changchun
2015-09-02 12:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-07 11:07 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-09-07 12:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-07 13:08 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-08-12 6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 2/2] vhost-user: new protocol feature for multi queue Ouyang Changchun
2015-08-13 9:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-24 1:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel] " Ouyang, Changchun
2015-09-01 9:16 ` [Qemu-devel] " Yuanhan Liu
2015-09-01 10:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01 11:42 ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-08-30 15:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5] vhost-user: add multi queue support Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-08-31 5:28 ` Ouyang, Changchun
2015-08-31 5:42 ` Xu, Qian Q
2015-08-31 8:55 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
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