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From: Martin Kletzander <mkletzan@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: snabb-devel@googlegroups.com,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.a@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Nikolay Nikolaev <n.nikolaev@virtualopensystems.com>,
	Luke Gorrie <luke@snabb.co>,
	thomas.long@intel.com, Maxime Leroy <maxime.leroy@6wind.com>,
	rkhan@redhat.com, Ouyang Changchun <changchun.ouyang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5] vhost-user: add multi queue support
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 14:00:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150709120034.GD10645@wheatley> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150709100019-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>

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On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 10:06:35AM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 12:00:59AM +0200, Maxime Leroy wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 09:23:06AM +0800, Ouyang Changchun wrote:
>> >> Based on patch by Nikolay Nikolaev:
>> >> Vhost-user will implement the multi queue support in a similar way
>> >> to what vhost already has - a separate thread for each queue.
>> >> To enable the multi queue functionality - a new command line parameter
>> >> "queues" is introduced for the vhost-user netdev.
>> >>
>> >> Signed-off-by: Nikolay Nikolaev <n.nikolaev@virtualopensystems.com>
>> >> Signed-off-by: Changchun Ouyang <changchun.ouyang@intel.com>
>> >
>> > So testing turned up a significant issue with the protocol extension in this
>> > one.  Specifically, remote has no idea how many queues guest actually
>> > wants to use (it's dynamic, guest changes this at any time).
>> > We need support for enabling and disabling queues dynamically.
>> >
>> > Given we are past hard freeze, and given no one uses this yet
>> > (dpdk upstream did not merge supporting protocol),
>> > I think the best thing to do is to disable this functionality for 2.4.
>> > I will send a patch to do this shortly.
>>
>> You are making a wrong statement, we already use multiqueue for
>> vhost-user and we expected to have this support officially integrated
>> in qemu 2.4.
>>
>> Libvirt 1.2.17 has been released with multiqueue support for
>> vhost-user. (http://libvirt.org/git/?p=libvirt.git;a=commit;h=366c22f2bcf1ddb8253c123f93fd18d1ba9eacd6)
>> It checks against the version of qemu (i.e. 2.4)  to know if
>> multiqueue is supported or not by qemu.
>> (http://libvirt.org/git/?p=libvirt.git;a=commitdiff;h=7971723b985b9adc27122a3503e7ab38ced2b57f;hp=e7f5510ef2d28ca0ae0ed5751b1fd3018130d6c1)
>
>Ouch. Just another example showing how version checks are evil.
>We don't want to break libvirt, I agree.
>

Yes, exactly.  Unfortunately if QEMU doesn't expose it in any way we
don't have many more options.

>I think what we can do is accept the command line created
>by libvirt, just ignore it and use a single queue only.
>

Anyway, I think it would be pretty OK to disable it *if and only if*
you error out with a sensible error message (e.g. "multiple queues are
not supported yet").

And from 2.5 and next libvirt release we can fix this properly
(QEMU - exposing the capability and libvirt - checking for it).

>> Dynamically enabling/disabling queue between host/guest is a nice
>> feature to have.
>> But it's not mandatory.
>
>It's mandated by the virtio spec.
>
>> You can still configure manually guest and
>> host to use the same number of queues.
>>
>> I think this feature can be implemented later in qemu 2.5.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Maxime
>
>Sorry, that's not how virtio is supposed to work. It must downgrade
>gracefully, not just stop working or crash guest.
>
>--
>MST

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-09 12:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-28  1:23 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5] vhost-user: add multi queue support Ouyang Changchun
2015-07-08 14:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-08 22:00   ` Maxime Leroy
2015-07-09  1:29     ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel] " Ouyang, Changchun
2015-07-09  7:31       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-09  7:06     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-09 12:00       ` Martin Kletzander [this message]
2015-07-09 12:24         ` Maxime Leroy
2015-07-09 12:33           ` Martin Kletzander
2015-07-09 12:54           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-12  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 0/2] vhost-user " Ouyang Changchun
2015-08-12  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 1/2] vhost-user: add " Ouyang Changchun
2015-08-13  9:18     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-13 10:24       ` Maxime Leroy
2015-08-13 10:55         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-25  3:25       ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel] " Ouyang, Changchun
2015-08-27 13:05         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-28  1:53           ` Ouyang, Changchun
2015-08-30  6:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-31  8:29               ` Ouyang, Changchun
2015-08-31 11:30                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-31 15:04                   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-01  9:20                   ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-09-01  9:41                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01 12:16                       ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-09-01  9:13       ` [Qemu-devel] " Yuanhan Liu
2015-09-01 10:07         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01 12:15           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-09-01 14:10             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-02  5:45               ` Ouyang, Changchun
2015-09-02 12:10                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-07 11:07       ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-09-07 12:26         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-07 13:08           ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-08-12  6:25   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 2/2] vhost-user: new protocol feature for multi queue Ouyang Changchun
2015-08-13  9:22     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-08-24  1:50       ` [Qemu-devel] [snabb-devel] " Ouyang, Changchun
2015-09-01  9:16       ` [Qemu-devel] " Yuanhan Liu
2015-09-01 10:09         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-09-01 11:42           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-08-30 15:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5] vhost-user: add multi queue support Marcel Apfelbaum
2015-08-31  5:28   ` Ouyang, Changchun
2015-08-31  5:42     ` Xu, Qian Q
2015-08-31  8:55       ` Marcel Apfelbaum

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