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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] virtio-blk: disable scsi passthrough for 1.0 device
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 17:39:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150715173508-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150715163051.354798d6.cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 04:30:51PM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 17:11:57 +0300
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > > > Fine, but revision is negotiated way before features are
> > > > > > probed so why does it make a practical difference?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Legacy drivers (that don't know about the set-revision command) will
> > > > > read features without revision negotiation - we need to offer them the
> > > > > legacy feature set.
> > > > 
> > > > Right. So simply do if (revision < 1) return features & 0xffffffff
> > > > and that will do this, will it not?
> > > 
> > > Not for bits that we want to offer for legacy but not for modern.
> > 
> > I don't think this selective offering works at least for scsi.
> > scsi is a backend feature, if you connect a modern device
> > in front the device simply does not work.
> > It therefore makes no sense to attach a transitional device
> > to such a backend.
> 
> My point is that we're losing legacy features with that approach, and
> it would not be possible to offer them to legacy guests with newer
> qemus (at least with ccw).

What's wrong with adding a disable-modern flag, like pci has?
User can set that to get a legacy device.

> What about the other way around (i.e. scsi is configured, therefore the
> device is legacy-only)? We'd only retain the scsi bit if it is actually
> wanted by the user's configuration. I would need to enforce a max
> revision of 0 for such a device in ccw, and pci could disable modern
> for it.

Will have to think about it.
But I think a flag to disable/enable modern is useful in any case,
and it seems sufficient.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-15 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-13  5:46 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] virtio-pci: ignore unaligned read/write in virtio_address_space_read()/write() Jason Wang
2015-07-13  5:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] virtio-blk: disable scsi passthrough for 1.0 device Jason Wang
2015-07-13  7:46   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-13  9:00     ` Jason Wang
2015-07-13  9:56       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-07-13 11:51         ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-13 12:22           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-13 12:30             ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-13 12:36               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-13 13:20                 ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-13 14:34                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-13 14:41                     ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-13 15:13                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-13 15:35                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-14 17:43                     ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-15 10:59                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-15 11:46                         ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-15 12:01                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-15 12:43                             ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-15 13:16                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-15 13:40                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-15 14:11                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-15 14:30                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-15 14:39                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2015-07-15 15:38                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-15 18:51                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-16 12:37                                             ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-16 12:47                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-16 17:22                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-17  7:18                                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-13 11:27       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-13  5:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] virtio-blk: set VIRTIO_F_ANY_LAYOUT when 1.0 is supported Jason Wang
2015-07-13  5:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] Revert "virtio-net: enable virtio 1.0" Jason Wang
2015-07-13  6:16   ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-13  7:22     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-13  8:46       ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-13  8:29     ` Jason Wang
2015-07-13  5:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] virtio-net: unbreak any layout Jason Wang
2015-07-13  6:50   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-13  8:30     ` Jason Wang
2015-07-13  7:24   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-13  8:22     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-13 10:54       ` Greg Kurz
2015-07-13 11:13         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-13  8:30     ` Jason Wang
2015-07-13  7:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] virtio-pci: ignore unaligned read/write in virtio_address_space_read()/write() Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-13  7:53   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-07-13  8:00     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-13  8:39       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-07-13  8:37   ` Jason Wang

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