From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Programmingkid <programmingkidx@gmail.com>
Cc: "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>, "Jeff Cody" <jcody@redhat.com>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"qemu-devel qemu-devel" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
jsnow@redhat.com, "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs?
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:19:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150827151924.GY24486@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E7FD2A3-C967-4D30-A657-548D27BCC84B@gmail.com>
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:13:25AM -0400, Programmingkid wrote:
> >
> >> What is wrong with having a predictable ID?
> >>
> >
> > As Daniel and Eric have noted, it could be nice to have a predictable
> > ID. My concern with a predictable ID is that it creates, across
> > multiple sub-systems, an ABI that we will then need to make sure
> > always works.
> >
> > For instance, I don't want management software or a user to rely on us
> > parsing devices, or image filenames / block driver states in a certain
> > order, and then anticipate the ID name. I am concerned about creating
> > an interface that may inadvertently "break" later on, and imposing a
> > burden on QEMU that isn't reasonable. Perhaps it is enough to just
> > rely on documentation for this, without enforcing it in the scheme.
>
> If we do nothing, QEMU stays broken. The monitor command device_del
> and others that need an ID will not work still. Hopefully any changes we
> make to QEMU will be robust enough stand the test of time.
That is not correct. It is possible for us to fix object_del / device_del
to accept the QOM object path. It isn't pretty but it is a solution that
gives everything a stable unique path ID to use for deletion even if the
user forgets to give a pretty path-less ID.
Regards,
Daniel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-27 15:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-24 18:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation Programmingkid
2015-08-24 22:21 ` Eric Blake
2015-08-25 12:42 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-08-25 15:25 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-25 15:33 ` Peter Maydell
2015-08-25 15:50 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-25 18:30 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-08-25 19:05 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-25 14:33 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-25 12:38 ` [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs? (was: [PATCH] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation) Markus Armbruster
2015-08-25 15:15 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 14:52 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 16:31 ` [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs? Markus Armbruster
2015-08-26 17:16 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 18:45 ` Peter Maydell
2015-08-26 21:48 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 22:08 ` John Snow
2015-08-27 3:40 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 5:39 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-08-27 15:39 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 17:25 ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-26 17:29 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 18:08 ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-26 18:17 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 22:01 ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-26 22:04 ` John Snow
2015-08-27 3:26 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 3:22 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 12:32 ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-27 13:00 ` Eric Blake
2015-08-27 13:39 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 13:51 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 14:01 ` Eric Blake
2015-08-27 14:18 ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-27 14:19 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 14:01 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 18:59 ` John Snow
2015-08-27 19:20 ` Eric Blake
2015-08-27 13:33 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 13:49 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 13:56 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 14:02 ` Eric Blake
2015-08-27 14:34 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 14:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 15:20 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 15:40 ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-27 15:58 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 16:02 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 16:08 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 16:22 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 16:49 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 20:15 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 19:08 ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-27 19:27 ` Eric Blake
2015-08-27 20:37 ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-27 14:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 14:54 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 14:07 ` Jeff Cody
2015-08-27 15:13 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 15:19 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2015-08-27 15:22 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 15:55 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 16:03 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 16:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 16:08 ` Eric Blake
2015-09-01 12:34 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-01 14:18 ` Programmingkid
2015-09-01 14:43 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-01 15:55 ` Programmingkid
2015-09-03 14:34 ` Programmingkid
2015-09-03 14:43 ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-03 15:55 ` Programmingkid
2015-09-03 16:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation Programmingkid
2015-08-26 17:28 ` [Qemu-devel] Should we auto-generate IDs? (was: [PATCH] qdev-monitor.c: Add device id generation) Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-26 17:46 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-26 17:53 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-26 18:01 ` Programmingkid
2015-08-27 13:54 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-08-27 14:03 ` Programmingkid
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