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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Bharata B Rao <bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Nathan Fontenot <nfont@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v0] spapr: Disable memory hotplug when HTAB size is insufficient
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 12:34:47 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150903023447.GH6537@voom.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150902032854.GA31862@in.ibm.com>

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On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 08:58:54AM +0530, Bharata B Rao wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:01:51AM +0530, Bharata B Rao wrote:
> > The hash table size allocated to guest depends on the maxmem size.
> > If the host isn't able to allocate the required hash table size but
> > instead allocates less than the optimal requested size, then it will
> > not be possible to grow the RAM until maxmem via memory hotplug.
> > Attempts to hotplug memory till maxmem could fail and this failure
> > isn't being currently handled gracefully by the guest kernel thereby
> > causing guest kernel oops.
> > 
> > This should eventually get fixed when we move to completely in-kernel
> > memory hotplug instead of the current method where userspace tool drmgr
> > drives the hotplug. Until the in-kernel memory hotplug is available
> > for PowerKVM, disable memory hotplug when requested hash table size
> > isn't allocated.
> 
> David - Do you have any views on how to go about this ? Due to the way
> we do hotplug currently using drmgr, it appears that it is very difficult
> to have a graceful recovery within the guest kernel when memory hotplug
> request can't be fulfilled due to insufficient HTAB size. (Anshuman can
> elaborate on this with the exact description on why it is so hard to
> recover).
> 
> Do you think disabling memory hotplug upfront is a reasonable workaround
> for this problem ?
> 
> Nathan - When you enable in-kernel memory hotplug for PowerKVM, will you
> be exporting something for the userspace (capability ?) to check and
> determine the presense of in-kernel memory hotplug feature so that we
> can depend on graceful recovery instead of upfront disablement of
> memory hotplug from QEMU ?

So, I kind of dislike magically disabling requested options - it can
make debugging problems really confusing.

In theory, what I'd prefer is to just not start the guest if we don't
get a big enough hash table to cover maxram.  Unfortunately we don't
discover this until reset time at which point it is not
straightforward to bail out cleanly :/

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-03  2:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-24  3:31 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v0] spapr: Disable memory hotplug when HTAB size is insufficient Bharata B Rao
2015-08-24  4:34 ` Anshuman Khandual
2015-09-02  3:28 ` Bharata B Rao
2015-09-03  2:34   ` David Gibson [this message]
2015-09-03 18:50   ` Nathan Fontenot
2015-09-04 15:33     ` Michael Roth
2015-09-04 15:49       ` Nathan Fontenot
2015-09-04 16:12         ` Michael Roth
2015-09-09  9:06           ` Anshuman Khandual

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