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From: Sam Bobroff <sam.bobroff@au1.ibm.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: Aravinda Prasad <aravinda@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	benh@au1.ibm.com, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	paulus@samba.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [PATCH v3 0/4] target-ppc: Add FWNMI support in qemu for powerKVM guests
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 16:22:22 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150903062222.GA16268@tungsten.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150903050521.GK6537@voom.redhat.com>

On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 03:05:21PM +1000, David Gibson wrote:

[snip]

> Hm.. so why can't the hypervisor code do the retrying?

Aravinda replied to this earlier in the thread:

"Retrying cannot be done internally in h_report_mc_err hcall: only one
thread can succeed entering qemu upon parallel hcall and hence retrying
inside the hcall will not allow the ibm,nmi-interlock from first CPU to
succeed."

I assume that this means that the big QEMU lock is held while an hcall is
processed by QEMU, but I haven't checked the code myself. Actually, even if the
lock is normally held, I don't see why these particular hcalls couldn't release
the lock. I'll look into this.

> > > Also, it looks like the vector will need at least one scratch register
> > > (for the hcall number, if nothing else).  Does PAPR specify what SPRGs
> > > the vector can clobber?  Obviously it can't be anything the guest
> > > kernel uses.
> > 
> > PAPR only says SPRGs 0 to 3 are for software use, but the kernel (see
> > arch/powerpc/include/asm/reg.h) defines SPRG2 as an exception scratch register
> > so it should be the right one to use here.
> 
> Uh.. no.  If 0..3 are for software (i.e. OS) use, then this needs to
> use a different one, since it's being used as a firmware resource
> here.  Linux might treat SPRG2 as scratch, but another OS would be
> within its rights to use it for something persistent.
> 
> Although, as paulus points out, sc 1 will clobber SRR0/1 anyway, and
> if we use a special illegal instruction, then you no longer need a
> scratch register.
> 
> > > Btw, does anyone know what happens with the VPA (and dispatch trace
> > > log and so forth) on kexec() - it could be subject to the same stale
> > > address problem, and rewriting vectors won't save us there.
> > 
> > I asked Michael Ellerman this one and he thinks kexec probably frees and
> > re-allocates the VPA.
> 
> Ok.  So the question is: if an explicit deregister is good enough for
> the VPA, is it also good enough for the FWNMI vector, in which case
> doing it with just a qemu exit and not bouncing through the guest space
> is back on the table.
> 
> I guess that's still problematic because there are existing guests
> that assume a kexec() will magically wipe the fwnmi vectors away.

Yes, but I think we could handle this separately if necessary: even if we don't
need to write anything to the vector, we could still insert a magic value and
check for it later. If it's been clobbered by a kexec, go back to the old
method.

Sam.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-03  6:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-05  7:12 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/4] target-ppc: Add FWNMI support in qemu for powerKVM guests Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-05  7:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/4] target-ppc: Extend rtas-blob Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-05  8:11   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2014-11-05  8:46     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-05  9:00       ` Alexander Graf
2014-11-05  9:07         ` Alexander Graf
2014-11-05 10:41           ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-05  7:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/4] target-ppc: Register and handle HCALL to receive updated RTAS region Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-05  7:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/4] target-ppc: Build error log Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-05  7:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 4/4] target-ppc: Handle ibm, nmi-register RTAS call Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-05  8:32   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2014-11-05 10:37     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-05 11:07       ` Alexander Graf
2014-11-05 11:24         ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-05 11:27           ` Alexander Graf
2014-11-05 15:46     ` Tom Musta
2014-11-06 10:00       ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-06 10:29         ` Alexander Graf
2014-11-06 10:36           ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-11  3:19         ` David Gibson
2014-11-11  5:48           ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-11  6:11             ` David Gibson
2014-11-11  6:51               ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-11 11:30                 ` David Gibson
2014-11-11  3:16   ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2014-11-11  6:44     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-13  3:52       ` David Gibson
2014-11-13  5:58         ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-13 10:32           ` David Gibson
2014-11-13 11:48             ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-13 12:44               ` David Gibson
2014-11-13 14:36                 ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-14  0:42                   ` David Gibson
2014-11-14  8:24                     ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-11  3:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/4] target-ppc: Add FWNMI support in qemu for powerKVM guests David Gibson
2014-11-11  7:15   ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-13  3:57     ` David Gibson
2014-11-13  6:10       ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-19  5:48   ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-11-19 10:32     ` Alexander Graf
2014-11-19 11:44       ` David Gibson
2014-11-19 12:22         ` Alexander Graf
2014-11-19 12:42           ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2014-11-19 12:57           ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2015-04-02  4:28     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2015-04-02  4:46       ` David Gibson
2015-07-02  9:11         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2015-07-03  6:01           ` David Gibson
2015-07-08  8:28             ` Aravinda Prasad
2015-08-07  3:37               ` Sam Bobroff
2015-08-09 13:53                 ` Alexander Graf
2015-08-10  4:05                   ` Sam Bobroff
2015-09-01 11:07                     ` Aravinda Prasad
2015-09-02  6:34                       ` Sam Bobroff
2015-09-02 10:37                         ` Aravinda Prasad
2015-09-02 23:53                         ` David Gibson
2015-09-03  3:24                           ` Sam Bobroff
2015-09-03  5:05                             ` David Gibson
2015-09-03  5:18                               ` Paul Mackerras
2015-09-03  6:22                               ` Sam Bobroff [this message]
2015-09-03 18:30                                 ` Aravinda Prasad
2015-09-04  5:02                                   ` David Gibson
2015-09-04  5:01                                 ` David Gibson
2015-09-03  2:02                   ` Paul Mackerras
2015-09-03 17:49                     ` Aravinda Prasad
2015-09-01  6:21                 ` Aravinda Prasad

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