From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@virtuozzo.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/5] disk deadlines
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 12:07:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150908100717.GA4230@noname.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55EEAB55.2070908@redhat.com>
Am 08.09.2015 um 11:33 hat Paolo Bonzini geschrieben:
>
>
> On 08/09/2015 10:00, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> > How the given solution works?
> >
> > If disk-deadlines option is enabled for a drive, one controls time completion
> > of this drive's requests. The method is as follows (further assume that this
> > option is enabled).
> >
> > Every drive has its own red-black tree for keeping its requests.
> > Expiration time of the request is a key, cookie (as id of request) is an
> > appropriate node. Assume that every requests has 8 seconds to be completed.
> > If request was not accomplished in time for some reasons (server crash or smth
> > else), timer of this drive is fired and an appropriate callback requests to
> > stop Virtial Machine (VM).
> >
> > VM remains stopped until all requests from the disk which caused VM's stopping
> > are completed. Furthermore, if there is another disks with 'disk-deadlines=on'
> > whose requests are waiting to be completed, do not start VM : wait completion
> > of all "late" requests from all disks.
> >
> > Furthermore, all requests which caused VM stopping (or those that just were not
> > completed in time) could be printed using "info disk-deadlines" qemu monitor
> > option as follows:
>
> This topic has come up several times in the past.
>
> I agree that the current behavior is not great, but I am not sure that
> timeouts are safe. For example, how is disk-deadlines=on different from
> NFS soft mounts?
I think the main difference is that it stops the VM and only allows to
continue once the request has completed, either successfully or with a
final failure (if I understand the cover letter correctly, I haven't
looked at the patches yet).
Kevin
> The NFS man page says
>
> NB: A so-called "soft" timeout can cause silent data corruption in
> certain cases. As such, use the soft option only when client
> responsiveness is more important than data integrity. Using NFS
> over TCP or increasing the value of the retrans option may
> mitigate some of the risks of using the soft option.
>
> Note how it only says "mitigate", not solve.
>
> Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-08 10:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-08 8:00 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/5] disk deadlines Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] add QEMU style defines for __sync_add_and_fetch Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-10 8:19 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-08 8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] disk_deadlines: add request to resume Virtual Machine Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-10 8:51 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-10 19:18 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-14 16:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-08 8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] disk_deadlines: add disk-deadlines option per drive Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-10 9:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-08 8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] disk_deadlines: add control of requests time expiration Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 9:35 ` Fam Zheng
2015-09-08 9:42 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 11:06 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-08 11:27 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 13:05 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-08 14:23 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 14:48 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-10 10:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-10 11:39 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-14 16:53 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-25 12:34 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-09-28 12:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-28 13:55 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-09-08 8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] disk_deadlines: add info disk-deadlines option Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 16:20 ` Eric Blake
2015-09-08 16:26 ` Eric Blake
2015-09-10 18:53 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-10 19:13 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 8:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/5] disk deadlines Vasiliy Tolstov
2015-09-08 9:20 ` Fam Zheng
2015-09-08 10:11 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-08 10:13 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 10:20 ` Fam Zheng
2015-09-08 10:46 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 10:49 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-08 13:20 ` Fam Zheng
2015-09-08 9:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-08 9:41 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 9:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-08 10:37 ` Andrey Korolyov
2015-09-08 10:50 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 10:07 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2015-09-08 10:08 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 10:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-08 10:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-08 10:36 ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-09-08 19:11 ` John Snow
2015-09-10 19:29 ` [Qemu-devel] Summary: " Denis V. Lunev
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