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From: Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com>
To: Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>
Cc: Lenny Szubowicz <lennysz@redhat.com>,
	Karen Noel <knoel@redhat.com>, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"El-Haj-Mahmoud, Samer" <samer.el-haj-mahmoud@hpe.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	edk2-devel-01 <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>,
	Reza Jelveh <reza.jelveh@tuhh.de>, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	qemu devel list <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Gabriel L. Somlo (GMail)" <gsomlo@gmail.com>,
	Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>, Peter Batard <pete@akeo.ie>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	"Doran, Mark" <mark.doran@intel.com>,
	Cole Robinson <crobinso@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
	"Ademar de Souza Reis Jr." <areis@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [edk2] EDK II & GPL - Re: OVMF BoF @ KVM Forum 2015
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 17:41:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150910004159.19487.83764@jljusten-ivb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2291309F-6521-4966-B8EB-FDCC1DCD2B1F@apple.com>

On 2015-09-09 16:05:20, Andrew Fish wrote:
> 
> > On Sep 9, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@intel.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On 2015-09-09 12:11:26, El-Haj-Mahmoud, Samer wrote:
> >> The recent expansions beyond BSD where all permissive licenses (BSD
> >> like) as far as I can tell.
> >> 
> >> I agree with Andrew, opening the door for GPL licensed code in EDK2
> >> will have severe consequences for products that are built using
> >> EDK2.
> > 
> > I don't think simply having a GplDriverPkg in the tree would have any
> > consequences for a platform that doesn't use any code in that package.
> > Obviously we could not make any core packages rely on that package.
> > 
> 
> So you have a legal degree and are speaking on behalf of your
> employer on this subject?

No and no. How about you? :)

Nevertheless, I have not heard the interpretation that just having GPL
in a source tree would impact your code, even if you do not include,
nor link to it. Is this Apple's interpretation of how GPL works?

> > FWIW, I don't mind if the consensus is that GplDriverPkg must live in
> > a separate repo. But, it would be nice to hear a good reason why it
> > must live elsewhere.
> 
> Because GPL is not a permissive license. An accidental git grep and
> copying some code can change the license of the code that gets the
> GPL code pasted into it.

I like this argument. It is slightly tempered by the fact that git
grep always shows the source path, and thus 'GplDriverPkg' would be
obviously visible.

> Thus having GPL code in the same repository as BSD code can end up
> accidentally converting BSD code to GPL code over time.

I would be more worried about the GPL based drivers becoming too
featureful over time, and the permissively licensed code not being
very useful. For example, I'm worried that the non-GPL OVMF may end up
missing a lot of features.

-Jordan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-10  0:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-10 16:24 [Qemu-devel] OVMF BoF @ KVM Forum 2015 Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-09  8:57 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-09 16:17   ` [Qemu-devel] EDK II & GPL - Re: [edk2] " Jordan Justen
2015-09-09 16:27     ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-09 17:04     ` [Qemu-devel] [edk2] EDK II & GPL - " Andrew Fish
2015-09-09 17:57       ` Jordan Justen
2015-09-09 19:11         ` El-Haj-Mahmoud, Samer
2015-09-09 22:24           ` Jordan Justen
2015-09-09 23:05             ` Andrew Fish
2015-09-09 23:11               ` El-Haj-Mahmoud, Samer
2015-09-10  0:41               ` Jordan Justen [this message]
2015-09-10  3:26                 ` Andrew Fish
2015-09-10  5:32                   ` Jordan Justen
2015-09-10  6:19                     ` Alexander Graf
2015-09-10  6:43                       ` Andrew Fish
2015-09-10 10:04                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-10 11:40                         ` Alexander Graf
2015-09-10 12:17                           ` Andrew Fish
2015-09-10 13:28                             ` Alexander Graf
2015-09-10 14:24                             ` Kevin Davis
2015-09-10 15:17                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-11  2:14                                 ` Kevin Davis
2015-09-11  2:40                                   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-11  3:44                                     ` Kevin Davis
2015-09-11  4:35                                       ` Andrew Fish
2015-09-10  6:57                     ` Sharma Bhupesh
2015-09-10  9:08                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-10  9:26                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-09-10 11:57                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-09-09 22:30         ` Andrew Fish
2015-09-09 16:34   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2015-09-09 16:43     ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-09 22:40     ` Laszlo Ersek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-09-09 20:09 [Qemu-devel] [edk2] EDK II & GPL - " Paolo Bonzini

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