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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>,
	stefanha@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] block: mirror - zero unallocated target sectors when zero init not present
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:10:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150929081034.GA3930@noname.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5609A38F.1070405@redhat.com>

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Am 28.09.2015 um 22:31 hat Eric Blake geschrieben:
> On 09/28/2015 08:13 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 28/09/2015 05:29, Jeff Cody wrote:
> >> This only occurs under two conditions:
> >>
> >>     1. 'mode' != "existing"
> >>     2. bdrv_has_zero_init(target) == NULL
> >>
> > 
> > I'm not sure if mode != "existing" actually matters.  I think what
> > actually matters is sync == "full".
> 
> When mode == 'existing' for a shallow mirror (sync != 'full'), that is
> the caller stating that the guest-visible contents of the destination
> match the guest-visible contents of the backing image.  The only sectors
> to be copied are those that differ from the backing file, and we should
> not be zeroing unrelated sectors because the user has already promised
> they have the same guest-visible content as the backing image would report.

Where is this promise documented? I wasn't aware of it and can't seem to
find it in the QAPI documentation of drive-mirror.

> When mode == 'existing' for a full mirror (sync == 'full'), that is the
> caller stating that they want every single sector of the destination
> written to hold the current state of the source (of course, allowing for
> optimizations such as skipping the write where the contents will read
> back the same as if the write had been performed).
> 
> I think Paolo is right: we care about zeroing unallocated sectors for
> sync == 'full', regardless of whether mode == 'existing'.

I agree.

> I also think the reason Jeff confused it for mode == 'existing' is that
> the other modes let qemu create the file, but qemu does not create block
> devices (the only way to mirror to a block device is via mode ==
> 'existing'), and it is primarily block devices where zero init is not
> guaranteed.

'qemu-img create' works on block devices (even though for raw it doesn't
do more than checking if it's large enough; but for qcow2, it's obvious
that it's necessary), so I'm pretty sure that mode != 'existing' works
on them as well.

Kevin

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-29  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-28  3:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] block: mirror - Write zeroes for unallocated sectors if no zero init Jeff Cody
2015-09-28  3:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] block: allow creation of detached dirty bitmaps Jeff Cody
2015-09-28 14:41   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-28 15:13   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-28 16:38   ` Max Reitz
2015-09-28  3:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] block: mirror - split out part of mirror_run() Jeff Cody
2015-09-28 14:17   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-28 14:47   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-28 16:50   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Max Reitz
2015-09-28  3:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] block: mirror - zero unallocated target sectors when zero init not present Jeff Cody
2015-09-28 14:13   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-28 20:31     ` Eric Blake
2015-09-29  8:10       ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2015-09-29  8:42         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-29  9:35           ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-29 10:52             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-30 14:43               ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-30 15:16                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-30 15:26                 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-30 16:02                   ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-30 16:06                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-01  8:23                       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-28 21:32     ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-29  2:48       ` Eric Blake
2015-09-28 15:07   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-28 21:57     ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-29  8:28       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-28 15:10   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-28 21:58     ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-28 15:23   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-30 15:11     ` Jeff Cody
2015-09-30 15:28       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-28 17:32   ` Max Reitz
2015-09-29  8:39     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-09-29 14:47       ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini

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