Re: [Qemu-devel] feature idea: allow user to run custom scripts

["Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>]

* Daniel P. Berrange (berrange@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 09:48:25AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> > "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> writes:

> I don't find the lack of expertise argument very compelling in general, as
> that's just a self-fullfilling prophecy really. I do agree though, that
> building a fully featured mgmt UI in QEMU is a distraction from more
> important work in QEMU's core mission.
> 

> I also think this last point about having security separation between QEMU
> and the GUI layer is really a killer argument against having any kind of
> non-trivial GUI built-in to QEMU.

We already have a GUI (at least 2...)

Defining a 'core mission' is very difficult.  While it's true that many
of us have to mostly worry about security in big farms of servers, some people
just want to run another OS on their desktop, and while they want it secure
they also want it to have fast graphics.   I'm not sure we currently have
a story for how to do separation from QEMU and fast graphics.


> I get the opinion that most maintainers consider that the QEMU GUI is just
> there to provide the bare minimum infrastructure to interact with the guest
> without relying on external services like SPICE/VNC. IOW it is not there as
> a building block for creating a full management UI around QEMU. I think it
> would be helpful to explicitly spell this out in docs somewhere, so people
> looking at QEMU cna easily identify that we're not looking for patches to
> add mgmt features in the QEMU GUI and they should invest their time in GUI
> efforts built on top of QEMU.

But how bare do you want it to be?  Many users get put off by the sparsity
of the GUI and just use something else instead.

Dave

> 
> Regards,
> Daniel
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