From: Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] target-i386: Use 1UL for bit shift
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 22:34:17 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151004023417.GA13062@morn.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <560E7384.9000901@redhat.com>
On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 02:07:32PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 02/10/2015 13:14, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > On 10/02/15 10:34, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >> On 01/10/2015 21:17, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> >>> - In the firmware, allocate an array of bytes, dynamically. This array
> >>> will have no declared type.
> >>>
> >>> - Populate the array byte-wise, from fw_cfg. Because the stores happen
> >>> through character-typed lvalues, they do not "imbue" the target
> >>> object with any effective type, for further accesses that do not
> >>> modify the value. (I.e., for further reads.)
> >>>
> >>> - Get a (uint8_t*) into the array somewhere, and cast it to
> >>> (struct acpi_table_hdr *). Read fields through the cast pointer.
> >>> Assuming no out-of-bounds situation (considering the entire
> >>> pointed to acpi_table_hdr struct), and assuming no alignment
> >>> violations for the fields (which is implementation-defined), these
> >>> accesses will be fine.
> >>>
> >>> *However*. If in point 2 you populate the array with uint64_t accesses,
> >>> that *does* imbue the array elements with an effective type that is
> >>> binding for further read accesses.
> >>
> >> Then don't do it. Use memcpy from uint64_t to the array.
> >
> > It won't work; memcpy() propagates the effective type.
>
> Doh. I guess that's another "not in practice" case. Saying "memcpy to
> {,u}int8_t doesn't propagate the effective type" would probably go to
> great lengths towards fixing this.
Just to be pedantic, uint8_t/int8_t are not the same as 'char' wrt
aliasing rules. (The standard defines writes to a char array/pointer
as being allowed to alias with other types, but does not say that
about int8_t.) Gcc currently treats them as the same; I actually
tried to get gcc to change that a few months ago:
https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=66110#c13
FWIW, I think the aliasing rules allow for very useful optimizations
and I wouldn't want to turn them off for programs where performance is
important.
The test case in the bug link above (which the gcc developers
thankfully did address!) is a good example of the utility of alias
detection. This function:
void func(struct s2 *p)
{
p->p1->f2 = 9;
p->p1->f2 = 10;
}
can't be optimized without -fstrict-aliasing. Indeed, even if the
code was changed to p->p1->f3 = 11; p->p1->f4 = 12; then gcc would
still need to reload p->p1 after every store. That's just silly.
-Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-04 2:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-29 20:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] target-i386: Fix undefined behavior on bit shifts Eduardo Habkost
2015-09-29 20:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] target-i386: Use 1UL for bit shift Eduardo Habkost
2015-09-30 13:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-30 20:24 ` Richard Henderson
2015-10-01 8:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-01 9:24 ` Peter Maydell
2015-10-01 13:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-01 17:07 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-01 17:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-01 17:38 ` Peter Maydell
2015-10-01 19:17 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-02 8:34 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-02 11:14 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-02 12:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-10-04 2:34 ` Kevin O'Connor [this message]
2015-10-01 20:35 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-10-01 18:40 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-02 8:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-29 20:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] target-i386: Don't left shift negative constant Eduardo Habkost
2015-10-01 1:35 ` Richard Henderson
2015-10-01 17:06 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-10-23 15:07 ` Eduardo Habkost
2015-10-23 18:20 ` Richard Henderson
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