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From: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Knauth <thomas.knauth@googlemail.com>
Cc: Bohdan Trach <bohdan.trach@mailbox.tu-dresden.de>,
	quintela@redhat.com, Bohdan Trach <bv.trach@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/3] Checkpoint-assisted migration proposal
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 14:29:21 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151005085921.GF21612@grmbl.mre> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABhLV02E4QRvmYD7tbrjKyLhAtJNCz2krHdT3UMrd64Cso5zQQ@mail.gmail.com>

On (Mon) 05 Oct 2015 [10:33:01], Thomas Knauth wrote:
> Hi Amit,
> 
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Could you please include a file in the docs/ directory that documents
> > how this works, so it's easier to comment on the general idea?
> 
> sure, we will add this.

Thanks!

> > From 'checkpointing', I was afraid this was going to use some
> > checkpoint-restore framework, but instead it's a new checkpointing
> > method that you're adding to qemu.
> >
> > Can you describe when checkpoints are taken, and what is checkpointed?
> > How is it stored on the disk?
> 
> Checkpoints are taken after a migration (at the source). If a
> checkpoint exists at the destination, the VM's state is reconstructed
> from the local checkpoint as well as updated pages from the source.
> This checkpoint-assisted migration can be faster, if network is the
> bottleneck, and saves network bandwidth.
> 
> We can, in principle, reuse the existing checkpoint format of QEMU.
> The current implementation writes its own checkpoint because it was
> less effort on our side. We write the VM's main memory into a single
> file.
> 
> > I'm sure the patches have all the details, but it's easier to check
> > the soundness of the idea if there's a high-level doc that explains
> > this, and then we can discuss the finer points over patches.
> 
> We've recently published a paper about the general idea and expected
> benefits for a number of workloads (
> http://se.inf.tu-dresden.de/pubs/papers/knauth2015vecycle.pdf )

I'll give it a look, thanks.  I'm interested in knowing what workloads
benefit.

There was one outstanding question from Dave about collisions:

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2015-04/msg01614.html

Can you please address that in your next submission?

> > Overall, I think this approach can benefit some workloads, and since
> > it's not affecting a lot of common code, we could look at adding it.
> >
> > Also, apologies for not getting to this earlier.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Thomas.

Thanks,
		Amit

      reply	other threads:[~2015-10-05  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-17 12:12 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/3] Checkpoint-assisted migration proposal Bohdan Trach
2015-04-17 12:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 1/3] memory: Add dump-pc-mem command for checkpointing Bohdan Trach
2015-04-17 13:53   ` Eric Blake
2015-04-18  7:40     ` Bohdan Trach
2015-11-16 16:46   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-11-17 15:38     ` Bohdan Trach
2015-11-17 16:02       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-17 12:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 2/3] memory: implement checkpoint handling Bohdan Trach
2015-11-16 16:56   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-11-17 15:38     ` Bohdan Trach
2015-04-17 12:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 3/3] migration: use checkpoint during migration Bohdan Trach
2015-11-17 12:26   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-11-17 15:38     ` Bohdan Trach
2015-11-17 16:05       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-11-17 16:34         ` Bohdan Trach
2015-11-17 16:39           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-24 11:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC, Ping 0/3] Checkpoint-assisted migration proposal Bohdan Trach
2015-05-11 11:13   ` Amit Shah
2015-06-09 10:00     ` Bohdan Trach
2015-08-19  9:19       ` Bohdan Trach
2015-09-15 10:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC " Amit Shah
2015-10-05  8:33   ` Thomas Knauth
2015-10-05  8:59     ` Amit Shah [this message]

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