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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>,
	qemu block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>,
	Jiang Yunhong <yunhong.jiang@intel.com>,
	Dong Eddie <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	qemu devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>, Gonglei <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Yang Hongyang <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH v10 08/10] Implement new driver for block replication
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 16:55:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151015145558.GA21733@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <561F0D25.9000409@cn.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:19:17AM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
> On 10/14/2015 10:27 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 05:08:17PM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
> >> On 10/13/2015 12:27 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 02:17:36PM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
> >>>> +        /* start backup job now */
> >>>> +        bdrv_op_unblock(s->hidden_disk, BLOCK_OP_TYPE_BACKUP_TARGET,
> >>>> +                        s->active_disk->backing_blocker);
> >>>> +        bdrv_op_unblock(s->secondary_disk, BLOCK_OP_TYPE_BACKUP_SOURCE,
> >>>> +                        s->hidden_disk->backing_blocker);
> >>>
> >>> Why is it safe to unblock these operations?
> >>>
> >>> Why do they have to be blocked for non-replication users?
> >>
> >> hidden_disk and secondary disk are opened as backing file, so it is blocked for
> >> non-replication users.
> >> What can I do if I don't unblock it and want to do backup?
> > 
> > CCing Jeff Cody, block jobs maintainer
> > 
> > You need to explain why it is safe remove this protection.  We can't
> > merge code that may be unsafe.
> > 
> > I think we can investigate further by asking: when does QEMU code assume
> > the backing file is read-only?
> 
> The backing file is opened in read-only mode. I want to reopen it in read-write
> mode here in the next version(So the patch 1 will be dropped)
> 
> > 
> > I haven't checked but these cases come to mind:
> > 
> > Operations that move data between BDS in the backing chain (e.g. commit
> > and stream block jobs) will lose or overwrite data if the backing file
> > is being written to by another coroutine.
> > 
> > We need to prevent users from running these operations at the same time.
> 
> Yes, but qemu doesn't provide such API.

This series can't be merged unless it is safe.

Have you looked at op blockers and thought about how to prevent unsafe
operations?

Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-15 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-25  6:17 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 00/10] Block replication for continuous checkpoints Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 01/10] allow writing to the backing file Wen Congyang
2015-10-09 19:07   ` Eric Blake
2015-10-30  5:49     ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 02/10] Backup: clear all bitmap when doing block checkpoint Wen Congyang
2015-10-09 19:09   ` Eric Blake
2015-10-12 13:45   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-13  9:13     ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-14 14:12       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 03/10] Allow creating backup jobs when opening BDS Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 04/10] block: make bdrv_put_ref_bh_schedule() as a public API Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 05/10] docs: block replication's description Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 06/10] Add new block driver interfaces to control block replication Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 07/10] quorum: implement block driver interfaces for " Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 08/10] Implement new driver " Wen Congyang
2015-10-12 16:25   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-13  8:59     ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-13  9:41       ` Fam Zheng
2015-10-13  9:46         ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-13 10:12           ` Fam Zheng
2015-10-14  0:55             ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-12 16:27   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-13  9:08     ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-14 14:27       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-15  2:19         ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-15 14:55           ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2015-10-16  0:52             ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-16  2:22             ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-16 11:37               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-27  2:57                 ` Wen Congyang
2015-10-27 14:41                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-12 16:31   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-13  9:09     ` Wen Congyang
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 09/10] support replication driver in blockdev-add Wen Congyang
2015-10-09 14:40   ` Eric Blake
2015-09-25  6:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 10/10] Add a new API to start/stop replication, do checkpoint to all BDSes Wen Congyang
2015-10-07  6:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 00/10] Block replication for continuous checkpoints Wen Congyang
2015-10-09 12:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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