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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>, Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] mirror: Improve zero-write and discard with fragmented image
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 17:29:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151109162934.GL3621@noname.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5640C768.50704@redhat.com>

Am 09.11.2015 um 17:18 hat Paolo Bonzini geschrieben:
> 
> 
> On 09/11/2015 17:04, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > Am 06.11.2015 um 11:22 hat Fam Zheng geschrieben:
> >> The "pnum < nb_sectors" condition in deciding whether to actually copy
> >> data is unnecessarily strict, and the qiov initialization is
> >> unnecessarily too, for both bdrv_aio_write_zeroes and bdrv_aio_discard
> >> branches.
> >>
> >> Reorganize mirror_iteration flow so that we:
> >>
> >>     1) Find the contiguous zero/discarded sectors with
> >>     bdrv_get_block_status_above() before deciding what to do. We query
> >>     s->buf_size sized blocks at a time.
> >>
> >>     2) If the sectors in question are zeroed/discarded and aligned to
> >>     target cluster, issue zero write or discard accordingly. It's done
> >>     in mirror_do_zero_or_discard, where we don't add buffer to qiov.
> >>
> >>     3) Otherwise, do the same loop as before in mirror_do_read.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
> > 
> > I'm not sure where in the patch to comment on this, so I'll just do it
> > here right in the beginning.
> > 
> > I'm concerned that we need to be more careful about races in this patch,
> > in particular regarding the bitmaps. I think the conditions for the two
> > bitmaps are:
> > 
> > * Dirty bitmap: We must clear the bit after finding the next piece of
> >   data to be mirrored, but before we yield after getting information
> >   that we use for the decision which kind of operation we need.
> > 
> >   In other words, we need to clear the dirty bitmap bit before calling
> >   bdrv_get_block_status_above(), because that's both the function that
> >   retrieves information about the next chunk and also a function that
> >   can yield.
> > 
> >   If after this point the data is written to, we need to mirror it
> >   again.
> 
> With Fam's patch, that's not trivial for two reasons:
> 
> 1) bdrv_get_block_status_above() can return a smaller amount than what
> is asked.
> 
> 2) the "read and write" case can handle s->granularity sectors per
> iteration (many of them can be coalesced, but still that's how the
> iteration works).
> 
> The simplest solution is to perform the query with s->granularity size
> rather than s->buf_size.

Then we end up with many small operations, that's not what we want.

Why can't we mark up to s->buf_size dirty clusters as clean first, then
query the status, and mark all of those that we can't handle dirty
again?

Kevin

> > * In-flight bitmap: We need to make sure that we never mirror the same
> >   data twice at the same time as older data could overwrite newer data
> >   then.
> > 
> >   Strictly speaking, it looks to me as if this meant we can delay
> >   setting the bit until before we issue an AIO operation. It might be
> >   more obviously correct to set it at the same time as the dirty bitmap
> >   is cleared.
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-09 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-06 10:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] mirror: Improve zero-write and discard with fragmented image Fam Zheng
2015-11-06 18:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Max Reitz
2015-11-09  2:12   ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-09 16:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2015-11-09 16:18   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-09 16:29     ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2015-11-10  6:14       ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-10  9:01         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-10 10:12           ` Kevin Wolf
2015-11-10 10:30             ` Paolo Bonzini

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