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From: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com, lcapitulino@redhat.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH REPOST 0/2] Add basic "detach" support for dump-guest-memory
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 12:57:04 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151125045704.GD17946@ad.usersys.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56553DBA.1070504@redhat.com>

On Wed, 11/25 12:48, Peter Xu wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/25/2015 10:46 AM, Fam Zheng wrote:
> > On Tue, 11/24 06:49, Eric Blake wrote:
> >> On 11/24/2015 04:37 AM, Fam Zheng wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I think the patch should be dropped, and periodic progress reports
> >>>> should be emitted from within the dump loops that do the heavy lifting.
> >>>>
> >>>> For the ELF format dumps, that loop appears to reside in dump_iterate()
> >>>> [dump.c].
> >>>>
> >>>> For the compressed format dumps, the loop seems to live in
> >>>> write_dump_pages() [dump.c].
> >>>
> >>> This is a good idea!
> >>>
> >>> What I'm not sure is where to report the progress. Can it be the monitor where
> >>> the dump-guest-memory command was issued? In other words, do we support raising
> >>> events before the previous command returns? If yes, can libvirt handle this
> >>> correctly? (But the worst case is using another channel to communicate the
> >>> progress, it is ad-hocery but it must be better than all the risk and effort to
> >>> enable multi-threaded dump.)
> >>>
> >>> Eric, Markus, have any idea with the progress reporting?
> >>
> >> I'm fairly certain we support raising events prior to completion of a
> >> synchronous command; what I'm not sure of is whether the event hits the
> >> wire right away or whether it piles up waiting for the next synchronous
> >> command completion.  If the latter, then we need to rework it (since the
> >> whole point of this exercise is that we are trying to give progress of a
> >> long-running synchronous command that hasn't completed yet).
> > 
> > So in that case we may want some "flush" operation of events. That sounds OK to
> > me.
> > 
> >> But we
> >> only have the one monitor connection for libvirt - the only way to pass
> >> events through a second channel is to open a second monitor connection,
> >> but that feels wrong to make libvirt have to track two monitors.
> > 
> > OK, that's a fair point, but FWIW I was thinking about adding an optional
> > argument:
> > 
> >     "*progress": "fd:dump-progress"
> > 
> > into which dump.c talks in a mini-protocol, to send progress information. It's
> > just an crazily hacky idea, not anything I'm advocating.
> 
> If query status is necessary, what about adding one command:
> "query-dump"? Which could be a simplified version of "query-migration":
> 
> 1. before first dump:
> 
> -> { "execute": "query-dump" }
> <- { "return": {} }
> 
> 2. one background dump in progress:
> 
> -> { "execute": "query-dump" }
> <- {
>       "return":{
>          "status":"active",
>          "percentage": {0..99},
>       }
>    }
> 
> 3. after first dump, and not running background dump (substraction
>    of case 1 and 2)
> 
> -> { "execute": "query-dump" }
> <- {
>      "return": {
>         "status": "completed|failed",
>      }
>    }
> 
> All these would be based on the fact that this patch might not be
> dropped though. :)

This is okay, if you're going to use threaded dump. And it needs an QAPI event
like other async operations. See migrate_generate_event.

Fam

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-25  4:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-23 10:07 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH REPOST 0/2] Add basic "detach" support for dump-guest-memory Peter Xu
2015-11-23 10:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH REPOST 1/2] dump-guest-memory: add "detach" flag for QMP/HMP interfaces Peter Xu
2015-11-23 15:48   ` Andrew Jones
2015-11-23 16:10   ` Eric Blake
2015-11-24  2:40     ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-23 10:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH REPOST 2/2] dump-guest-memory: add basic "detach" support Peter Xu
2015-11-23 15:56   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-11-23 16:08   ` Andrew Jones
2015-11-23 16:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH REPOST 0/2] Add basic "detach" support for dump-guest-memory Eric Blake
2015-11-23 16:22 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-11-23 17:57   ` Andrew Jones
2015-11-24  1:57     ` Peter Xu
2015-11-24  3:10       ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-24 11:14         ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-11-24 11:37           ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-24 13:49             ` Eric Blake
2015-11-25  2:46               ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-25  4:48                 ` Peter Xu
2015-11-25  4:57                   ` Fam Zheng [this message]
2015-11-25  8:37               ` Markus Armbruster
2015-11-24 12:05         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-24 13:36           ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-11-24 14:32             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-25  5:07           ` Peter Xu

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