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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Olga Krishtal <okrishtal@virtuozzo.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] block: added lock image option and callback
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 09:51:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160113095144.GB26697@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160111183557.GN9454@noname.redhat.com>

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 07:35:57PM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 11.01.2016 um 18:58 hat Daniel P. Berrange geschrieben:
> > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 06:31:06PM +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > > Am 23.12.2015 um 08:46 hat Denis V. Lunev geschrieben:
> > > > From: Olga Krishtal <okrishtal@virtuozzo.com>
> > > > 
> > > > While opening the image we want to be sure that we are the
> > > > one who works with image, anf if it is not true -
> > > > opening the image for writing should fail.
> > > > 
> > > > There are 2 ways at the moment: no lock at all and lock the file
> > > > image.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Olga Krishtal <okrishtal@virtuozzo.com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org>
> > > > CC: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
> > > > CC: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
> > > > CC: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
> > > > CC: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
> > > 
> > > As long as locking is disabled by default, it's useless and won't
> > > prevent people from corrupting their images. These corruptions happen
> > > exactly because people don't know how to use qemu properly. You can't
> > > expect them to enable locking manually.
> > > 
> > > Also, you probably need to consider bdrv_reopen() and live migration.
> > > I think live migration would be blocked if source and destination both
> > > see the lock; which is admittedly less likely than with the qcow2 patch
> > > (and generally a problem of this series), but with localhost migration
> > > and potentially with some NFS setups it can be the case.
> > 
> > Note that when libvirt does locking it will release locks when a VM
> > is paused, and acquire locks prior to resuming CPUs. This allows live
> > migration to work because you never have CPUs running on both src + dst
> > at the same time. This does mean that libvirt does not allow QEMU to
> > automatically re-start CPUs when migration completes, as it needs to
> > take some action to acquire locks before allowing the dst to start
> > running again.
> 
> This assumes that block devices can only be written to if CPUs are
> running. In the days of qemu 0.9, this was probably right, but with
> things like block jobs and built-in NBD servers, I wouldn't be as sure
> these days.

True, libvirt knows when it is using block jobs & NBD servers, so it
should not be difficult to address this.

Regards,
Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-13  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-22 16:46 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] qcow2: Implement image locking Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] qcow2: Write feature table only for v3 images Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 20:20   ` Eric Blake
2016-01-11 15:20     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] qcow2: Write full header on image creation Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 20:25   ` Eric Blake
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] block: Assert no write requests under BDRV_O_INCOMING Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 20:27   ` Eric Blake
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] block: Fix error path in bdrv_invalidate_cache() Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 20:31   ` Eric Blake
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] block: Inactivate BDS when migration completes Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 20:43   ` Eric Blake
2016-01-05 20:21     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " John Snow
2016-01-13 14:25       ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-13 16:35         ` Eric Blake
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] qemu-img: Prepare for locked images Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 16:57   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-12-22 17:00     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 21:06   ` Eric Blake
2016-01-11 15:49     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-01-11 16:05       ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-12 15:20         ` Markus Armbruster
2016-01-12 17:36           ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-13  8:44             ` Markus Armbruster
2016-01-13 14:19               ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-14 13:07                 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-01-14 14:19                   ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-11 16:22     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 21:41   ` Eric Blake
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] qcow2: Implement .bdrv_inactivate Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 21:17   ` Eric Blake
2016-01-11 15:34     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] qcow2: Fix BDRV_O_INCOMING handling in qcow2_invalidate_cache() Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 21:22   ` Eric Blake
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] qcow2: Make image inaccessible after failed qcow2_invalidate_cache() Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 21:24   ` Eric Blake
2015-12-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] qcow2: Add image locking Kevin Wolf
2015-12-22 22:04   ` Eric Blake
2015-12-23  3:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] qcow2: Implement " Fam Zheng
2015-12-23  7:35   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23  7:46     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/5] generic image locking and crash recovery Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23  7:46       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] block: added lock image option and callback Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 23:48         ` Eric Blake
2016-01-11 17:31         ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-11 17:58           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-11 18:35             ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-13  8:52               ` Markus Armbruster
2016-01-13  9:12                 ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-01-13  9:50                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-13  9:51               ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2016-01-12  5:38           ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-01-12 10:10             ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-12 11:33               ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-12 12:24                 ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-01-12 12:28                 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-12 13:17                   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-12 13:24                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-13  0:08                       ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-12 15:59                 ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-01-13  0:10                   ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-13 16:44                     ` Eric Blake
2016-01-14  7:23                       ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23  7:46       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] block: implemented bdrv_lock_image for raw file Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 12:40         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-12-23  7:46       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] block: added check image option and callback bdrv_is_opened_unclean Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23  9:09         ` Fam Zheng
2015-12-23  9:14           ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23  7:46       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] qcow2: implemented bdrv_is_opened_unclean Denis V. Lunev
2016-01-11 17:37         ` Kevin Wolf
2015-12-23  7:46       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] block/paralels: added paralles implementation for bdrv_is_opened_unclean Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23  8:09       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/5] generic image locking and crash recovery Fam Zheng
2015-12-23  8:36         ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 10:47   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] qcow2: Implement image locking Daniel P. Berrange
2015-12-23 12:15     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Roman Kagan
2015-12-23 12:29       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-12-23 12:41         ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 12:46           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-12-23 12:34       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-12-23 12:47         ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 12:56           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-11 17:14     ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2016-01-11 17:54       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-01-13  8:56       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-01-13  9:11         ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 23:19   ` [Qemu-devel] " Max Reitz
2015-12-24  5:41     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-24  5:42       ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-01-04 17:02       ` Max Reitz
2016-01-11 16:47       ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-11 17:56         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-12-23 14:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Vasiliy Tolstov
2015-12-23 15:08   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-23 15:11     ` Vasiliy Tolstov
2016-01-11 16:25       ` Kevin Wolf
2015-12-23 15:09   ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-12-24  5:43 ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-01-11 16:33   ` Kevin Wolf
2016-01-11 16:38     ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-01-14 14:01 ` Max Reitz

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