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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com>
Cc: wei@redhat.com, Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] ARM: add QMP command to query GIC version
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 09:55:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160219015513.GA17229@pxdev.xzpeter.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1455815421.3968.12.camel@redhat.com>

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 06:10:21PM +0100, Andrea Bolognani wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-02-18 at 17:52 +0100, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > > Is this work on any of our todo list (or anyone has started the
> > > prototyping)?
> > > 
> > > It seems reasonable to provide such a generic interface, rather than
> > > adding a "query-gic-capability" for GIC versions only. The problem
> > > is that, I am not sure how eagerly we are wanting this GIC
> > > interface, and when will this framework be there in QOM.
> > 
> > We want it eagerly :-) This type of a rabbit hole is likely why Daniel
> > was suggesting we do more in libvirt. I'm still not sure we want to
> > probe both kvm and qemu from libvirt though, so I'm still in favor of
> > an improved qemu probing method being worked out.
> > 
> > I don't know what the policy is for deprecating QMP commands, but I
> > wonder if we can't introduce a QMP command now, and then, after working
> > out the QOM extensions, we could shift to it, deprecating this QMP
> > command and any others that would no longer be needed.
> 
> AFAIK, the current situation of libvirt passing the GIC version to
> QEMU and simply reporting in case of failure is not unprecedented
> and there are a few cases where probing in advance would simply not
> be feasible.
> 
> Any probing code added to libvirt would have to be kept around
> forever to ensure compatibility with current QEMU versions, so it
> should IMHO be seen as a last resort in case we can't live without
> GIC version probing while it's being implemented, properly, in QEMU.

If libvirt is the most possible consumer for the new command, I
think it might not be too hard to keep the compatibility of all
possible versions of QEMU. E.g., after we have got a better way to
query GIC version other than query-gic-capability, we can do
something like this in libvirt:

- try query-gic-capability
  - if supported -> [got GIC version]
  - if not supported -> try the new method
    - if supported -> [got GIC version]
    - if not supported -> [not support]

During the time when QEMU has both methods working (before
obsoleting the query-gic-capability QMP command), QEMU will make
sure querying in both way will get exactly the same results.

Does this work?

Thanks.
Peter

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-19  1:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-14  5:41 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] ARM: add QMP command to query GIC version Peter Xu
2016-02-14  5:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/2] arm: gic: add GICType Peter Xu
2016-02-14  5:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/2] arm: gic: add "query-gic-capability" interface Peter Xu
2016-02-15  6:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] ARM: add QMP command to query GIC version Wei Huang
2016-02-15  7:34   ` Peter Xu
2016-02-15  7:49     ` Fam Zheng
2016-02-15  9:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Martin Kletzander
2016-02-15  9:41   ` Peter Maydell
2016-02-15 12:16     ` Andrew Jones
2016-02-15 12:27       ` Pavel Fedin
2016-02-15 10:09   ` Peter Xu
2016-02-15  9:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2016-02-15 10:34   ` Peter Xu
2016-02-15 15:08     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-15 15:21       ` Peter Maydell
2016-02-15 19:40         ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-15 20:18           ` Andrew Jones
2016-02-15 20:32             ` Peter Maydell
2016-02-16 10:10               ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-16 10:15                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-16 12:05                   ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Andrea Bolognani
2016-02-16 12:09                     ` Peter Maydell
2016-02-16 12:20                       ` Andrea Bolognani
2016-02-16 12:15                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-16 12:27                       ` Andrea Bolognani
2016-02-16 12:38                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-16 13:14                           ` Andrea Bolognani
2016-02-15 15:22       ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-18  4:40         ` Peter Xu
2016-02-18 16:52           ` Andrew Jones
2016-02-18 17:10             ` Andrea Bolognani
2016-02-19  1:55               ` Peter Xu [this message]
2016-02-19 12:33                 ` Andrea Bolognani
2016-02-22  1:35                   ` Peter Xu
2016-02-29 16:30                     ` Andrea Bolognani
2016-03-01  2:19                       ` Peter Xu

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