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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>
Cc: Igor Redko <redkoi@virtuozzo.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] virtio-balloon: export all balloon statistics
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:49:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160223174837-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56CC7ADD.5080508@openvz.org>

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 06:29:33PM +0300, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> On 02/23/2016 06:24 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 05:59:44PM +0300, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> >>From: Igor Redko <redkoi@virtuozzo.com>
> >>
> >>We are making experiments with different autoballooning strategies
> >>based on the guest behavior. Thus we need to experiment with different
> >>guest statistics. For now every counter change requires QEMU recompilation
> >>and dances with Libvirt.
> >>
> >>This patch introduces transport for unrecognized counters in virtio-balloon.
> >>This transport can be used for measuring benefits from using new
> >>balloon counters, before submitting any patches. Current alternative
> >>is 'guest-exec' transport which isn't made for such delicate matters
> >>and can influence test results.
> >>
> >>Originally all counters with tag >= VIRTIO_BALLOON_S_NR were ignored.
> >>Instead of this we keep first (VIRTIO_BALLOON_S_NR + 32) counters from the
> >>queue and pass unrecognized ones with the following names: 'x-stat-XXXX',
> >>where XXXX is a tag number in hex. Defined counters are reported with their
> >>regular names.
> >>
> >>Signed-off-by: Igor Redko <redkoi@virtuozzo.com>
> >>Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org>
> >>CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> >This seems to open the ABI to abuse.
> >Seems like a reasonable way to experiment though.
> >How about adding this within #if 0 statements?
> >You can uncomment them for debugging ...
> I'd prefer to have this enabled.
> 
> Why do you think that it opens "abuse" way?

Because people will use this to hack drivers and management tools
bypassing qemu.

> Actually the amount of host data is limited. If the guest
> will send fake stats before real ones - this guest is
> not cooperative and in this case the guest can
> hust ignore any balloon change requests.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-23 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-23 14:59 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/2] virtio-balloon: improve balloon statistics Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-23 14:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] virtio-balloon: export all " Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-23 15:24   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-23 15:29     ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-23 15:49       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2016-02-24 10:01         ` Roman Kagan
2016-02-24 14:31           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-24 15:43             ` Eric Blake
2016-02-25  5:50               ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-25  8:44                 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-25  8:54                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-25  9:30                     ` Roman Kagan
2016-02-25 10:05                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-25 10:46                         ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-25 11:17                           ` Roman Kagan
2016-02-25 11:58                             ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-25 12:44                               ` Roman Kagan
2016-02-25 14:10                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-25 14:49                                   ` Roman Kagan
2016-02-23 14:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] virtio-balloon: add 'available' counter Denis V. Lunev
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2016-02-24  7:50 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] virtio-balloon: improve balloon statistics Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-24  7:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] virtio-balloon: export all " Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-20  7:54 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] virtio-balloon: improve " Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-20  7:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] virtio-balloon: export all " Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-22 21:27   ` Eric Blake

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