From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
"Gabriel L. Somlo" <somlo@cmu.edu>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] vl.c: disallow command line fw cfg without opt/
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 16:17:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160317160429-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56EAB768.2000406@redhat.com>
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 02:55:52PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>
>
> On 17/03/2016 14:49, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >> On 17/03/2016 14:13, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>
> >>> QEMU command line:
> >>> A. -fw-cfg RFQDN/PATH prepends usr/. So users will not get conflicts
> >>> with QEMU hardware
> >>
> >> Alternative: no need to prepend usr/, I think.
> >
> > I personally dislike telling user "do X". I don't see a reason not to be
> > friendly and do X. The rare case where users do not want X can be
> > easily enabled.
>
> I wouldn't include usr/ at all in the paths. The RFQDN recommendation
> is enough to avoid clashes with etc/ and opt/.
Yes but then we need a blacklist. And usr/ is not visible to
users so I do not see a problem with it.
> >>> B. -fw-cfg org.qemu/unsupported/XXX as a hack, removes
> >>> org.qemu/unsupported/ and leaves just XXX,
> >>> for people who want to break^?^?^?^?^?debug QEMU hardware
> >>
> >> Alternative: fail on:
> >>
> >> - a blacklist of etc/* files including etc/system-states,
> >> etc/smbios/smbios-tables, etc/smbios/smbios-anchor,
> >> etc/reserved-memory-end, etc/pvpanic-port, etc/e820, and possibly
> >> etc/boot-menu-wait
> >
> > We can not predict the future. Future firmware will look for
> > files under etc/mst. Users using this firmware with
> > current QEMU will get a nasty surprise where it previously
> > worked.
> >
> > Besides, it is way easier to maintain and understand a simple rule than
> > a blacklist.
>
> The reason for the blacklist is that these are files owned by QEMU but
> traditionally under etc/. The error can be simply "fw_cfg file %s is
> provided by QEMU". If a file is added in the future that is owned by
> QEMU, it will be under org.qemu/* so the blacklist will not grow.
Yes, but a new prefix seems like a cleaner way.
> >> Likewise SeaBIOS would switch from etc/ to an org.seabios/ prefix (for
> >> stuff usable from both Coreboot and QEMU, e.g.
> >> org.seabios/bootsplash.bmp) or org.qemu/ (for stuff that is specific to
> >> QEMU).
> >>
> >> Files that could be moved from etc/ to org.qemu/ correspond to the ones
> >> that are blacklisted in (B), e.g. etc/system-states ->
> >> org.qemu/system-states.
> >
> > I am not sure about moving things into usr/org.qemu.
> > These are system files, not user-provided ones.
> > But we can argue about future plans down the road.
>
> Does it make more sense if it's just org.qemu, not usr/org.qemu?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paolo
I am not sure, let's discuss after 2.6.
--
MST
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-15 14:47 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] vl.c: disallow command line fw cfg without opt/ Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-16 16:29 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-03-16 16:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-16 18:15 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-03-16 18:35 ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-03-16 18:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-16 19:15 ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-03-16 20:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-16 20:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-16 20:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-17 8:49 ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-03-17 9:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-17 11:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-17 13:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-17 13:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-17 8:42 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-03-17 9:43 ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-03-17 10:22 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-03-17 13:28 ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-03-17 13:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-17 13:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-17 16:59 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-03-17 13:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-17 9:49 ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-03-17 10:09 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-03-17 13:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-17 13:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-17 13:49 ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-03-17 13:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-17 13:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-17 14:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2016-03-17 14:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-17 15:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-17 17:17 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-03-17 19:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-17 19:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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