From: Pavel Borzenkov <pborzenkov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be>
Cc: nbd-general@lists.sourceforge.net, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Nbd] [PATCH 1/2] NBD proto: add WRITE_ZEROES extension
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:57:06 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160324075706.GA24831@phobos.sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160323172116.GA2467@grep.be>
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 06:21:16PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 05:16:01PM +0300, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> > From: Pavel Borzenkov <pborzenkov@virtuozzo.com>
> >
> > There exist some cases when a client knows that the data it is going to
> > write is all zeroes. Such cases include mirroring or backing up a device
> > implemented by a sparse file.
> >
> > With current NBD command set, the client has to issue NBD_CMD_WRITE
> > command with zeroed payload and transfer these zero bytes through the
> > wire. The server has to write the data onto disk, effectively denying
> > the sparseness.
> >
> > To remedy this, the patch adds WRITE_ZEROES extension with one new
> > NBD_CMD_WRITE_ZEROES command.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Pavel Borzenkov <pborzenkov@virtuozzo.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org>
> > CC: Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be>
> > CC: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> > CC: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
> > CC: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
> > ---
> > doc/proto.md | 44 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 1 file changed, 44 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/doc/proto.md b/doc/proto.md
> > index 463ef8a..cda213c 100644
> > --- a/doc/proto.md
> > +++ b/doc/proto.md
> > @@ -241,6 +241,8 @@ immediately after the global flags field in oldstyle negotiation:
> > schedule I/O accesses as for a rotational medium
> > - bit 5, `NBD_FLAG_SEND_TRIM`; should be set to 1 if the server supports
> > `NBD_CMD_TRIM` commands
> > +- bit 6, `NBD_FLAG_SEND_WRITE_ZEROES`; should be set to 1 if the server
> > + supports `NBD_CMD_WRITE_ZEROES` commands
> >
> > ##### Client flags
> >
> > @@ -471,6 +473,10 @@ The following request types exist:
> > about the contents of the export affected by this command, until
> > overwriting it again with `NBD_CMD_WRITE`.
> >
> > +* `NBD_CMD_WRITE_ZEROES` (6)
> > +
> > + Defined by the experimental `WRITE_ZEROES` extension; see below.
> > +
> > * Other requests
> >
> > Some third-party implementations may require additional protocol
> > @@ -594,6 +600,44 @@ option reply type.
> > message if they do not also send it as a reply to the
> > `NBD_OPT_SELECT` message.
> >
> > +### `WRITE_ZEROES` extension
> > +
> > +There exist some cases when a client knows that the data it is going to write
> > +is all zeroes. Such cases include mirroring or backing up a device implemented
> > +by a sparse file. With current NBD command set, the client has to issue
> > +`NBD_CMD_WRITE` command with zeroed payload and transfer these zero bytes
> > +through the wire. The server has to write the data onto disk, effectively
> > +denying the sparseness.
> > +
> > +To remedy this, a `WRITE_ZEROES` extension is envisioned. This extension adds
> > +one new command with two command flags.
> > +
> > +* `NBD_CMD_WRITE_ZEROES` (6)
> > +
> > + A write request with no payload. Length and offset define the location
> > + and amount of data to be zeroed.
> > +
> > + The server MUST zero out the data on disk, and then send the reply
> > + message. The server MAY send the reply message before the data has
> > + reached permanent storage.
> > +
> > + If the `NBD_FLAG_SEND_FUA` flag ("Force Unit Access") was set in the
> > + export flags field, the client MAY set the flag `NBD_CMD_FLAG_FUA` (bit 0)
> > + in the command flags field. If this flag was set, the server MUST NOT send
> > + the reply until it has ensured that the newly-zeroed data has reached
> > + permanent storage.
> > +
> > + If the flag `NBD_CMD_FLAG_MAY_TRIM` (bit 1) was set by the client in the
> > + command flags field, the server MAY use trimming to zero out the area,
> > + but it MUST ensure that the data reads back as zero.
> > +
> > + If an error occurs, the server SHOULD set the appropriate error code
> > + in the error field. The server MAY then close the connection.
> > +
> > +The server SHOULD return `ENOSPC` if it receives a write zeroes request
> > +including one or more sectors beyond the size of the device. It SHOULD
> > +return `EPERM` if it receives a write zeroes request on a read-only export.
> > +
>
> So, the semantics of your proposed WRITE_ZEROES are exactly the same as
> the WRITE command, except that no payload is sent?
>
> In that case, I think it's slightly more sensible if we don't add a new
> command, but instead just have an NBD_CMD_FLAG_ZEROES added to the WRITE
> command instead. After all, they're going to be (mostly) the same
> anyway.
>
> Did you propose a separate command for a specific reason that I'm
> missing (or forgetting), or is that just an oversight?
No, there is no specific reason. Looks like NBD_CMD_FLAG_ZEROES fits the
spec and implementations nicely. So I'll rewrite the extension and add
the flag instead of the whole command.
>
> --
> < ron> I mean, the main *practical* problem with C++, is there's like a dozen
> people in the world who think they really understand all of its rules,
> and pretty much all of them are just lying to themselves too.
> -- #debian-devel, OFTC, 2016-02-12
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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-23 14:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] NBD protocol extensions: WRITE_ZEROES and GET_LBA_STATUS Denis V. Lunev
2016-03-23 14:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] NBD proto: add WRITE_ZEROES extension Denis V. Lunev
2016-03-23 15:14 ` Eric Blake
2016-03-23 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [Nbd] " Wouter Verhelst
2016-03-24 7:16 ` [Qemu-devel] " Pavel Borzenkov
2016-03-24 7:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [Nbd] " Wouter Verhelst
2016-03-23 17:21 ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-03-24 7:57 ` Pavel Borzenkov [this message]
2016-03-24 8:26 ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-03-24 11:35 ` Pavel Borzenkov
2016-03-24 11:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-24 12:31 ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-03-24 14:53 ` Eric Blake
2016-03-23 14:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] NBD proto: add GET_LBA_STATUS extension Denis V. Lunev
2016-03-23 16:27 ` Eric Blake
2016-03-24 12:30 ` Pavel Borzenkov
2016-03-24 15:04 ` Eric Blake
2016-03-24 16:36 ` Pavel Borzenkov
2016-03-23 17:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [Nbd] " Wouter Verhelst
2016-03-23 18:14 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-03-24 8:25 ` Pavel Borzenkov
2016-03-24 8:41 ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-03-24 11:36 ` Pavel Borzenkov
2016-03-24 12:32 ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-03-24 8:43 ` Pavel Borzenkov
2016-03-24 9:33 ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-03-24 10:32 ` Alex Bligh
2016-03-24 11:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-24 12:17 ` Alex Bligh
2016-03-24 12:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-24 13:31 ` Alex Bligh
2016-03-24 13:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-24 11:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-24 12:43 ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-03-24 15:25 ` Eric Blake
2016-03-24 15:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-24 15:53 ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-03-24 16:04 ` Eric Blake
2016-03-24 16:07 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-03-24 16:47 ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-03-29 9:38 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-03-29 9:53 ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-03-29 10:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-24 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Blake
2016-03-25 8:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [Nbd] " Wouter Verhelst
2016-03-25 9:01 ` Alex Bligh
2016-03-28 15:58 ` Eric Blake
2016-04-04 10:32 ` Markus Pargmann
2016-04-04 10:18 ` Markus Pargmann
2016-04-04 16:54 ` Eric Blake
2016-04-04 22:17 ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-04-04 16:40 ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Blake
2016-04-04 20:16 ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-04-04 20:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [Nbd] " Eric Blake
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