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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com>
Cc: "rkagan@virtuozzo.com" <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kenel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kenel.org>,
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	"simhan@hpe.com" <simhan@hpe.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
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	"jitendra.kolhe@hpe.com" <jitendra.kolhe@hpe.com>,
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	"amit.shah@redhat.com" <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
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	Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@huawei.com>,
	"rth@twiddle.net" <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC Design Doc]Speed up live migration by skipping free pages
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:11:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160324165530-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F2CBF3009FA73547804AE4C663CAB28E0415BD6F@shsmsx102.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 02:50:56PM +0000, Li, Liang Z wrote:
> > > > > >> Given the typical speed of networks; it wouldn't do too much
> > > > > >> harm to start sending assuming all pages are dirty and then
> > > > > >> when the guest finally gets around to finishing the bitmap then
> > > > > >> update, so it's asynchronous - and then if the guest never
> > > > > >> responds we don't really
> > > > care.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Indeed, thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is interesting. By doing so, the threshold I mentioned in
> > > > > another mail is not necessary, since we can do it in parallel.
> > > >
> > > > Actually I just realised it's a little more complex; we can't sync
> > > > the dirty bitmap again from the guest until after we've received the
> > guests 'free'
> > > > bitmap; that's because we wouldn't know if a 'dirty' page reflected
> > > > that a page declared as 'free' had now been reused - so there is
> > > > still an ordering there.
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > >
> > > Not very complex, we can implement like this:
> > >
> > > 1. Set all the bits in the migration_bitmap_rcu->bmap to 1 2. Clear
> > > all the bits in ram_list. dirty_memory[DIRTY_MEMORY_MIGRATION]
> > > 3. Send the get_free_page_bitmap request 4. Start to send pages to
> > > destination and check if the free_page_bitmap is ready
> > >     if (is_ready) {
> > >           filter out the free pages from  migration_bitmap_rcu->bmap;
> > >           migration_bitmap_sync();
> > >     }
> > >      continue until live migration complete.
> > >
> > >
> > > Is that right?
> > 
> > The order I'm trying to understand is something like:
> > 
> >     a) Send the get_free_page_bitmap request
> >     b) Start sending pages
> >     c) Reach the end of memory
> >       [ is_ready is false - guest hasn't made free map yet ]
> >     d) normal migration_bitmap_sync() at end of first pass
> >     e) Carry on sending dirty pages
> >     f) is_ready is true
> >       f.1) filter out free pages?
> >       f.2) migration_bitmap_sync()
> > 
> > It's f.1 I'm worried about.  If the guest started generating the free bitmap
> > before (d), then a page marked as 'free' in f.1 might have become dirty
> > before (d) and so (f.2) doesn't set the dirty again, and so we can't filter out
> > pages in f.1.
> > 
> 
> As you described, the order is incorrect.
> 
> Liang


So to make it safe, what is required is to make
sure no free list us outstanding before calling
migration_bitmap_sync.

If one is outstanding, filter out pages before
calling migration_bitmap_sync.

Of course, if we just do it like we normally
do with migration, then by the time we call
migration_bitmap_sync dirty bitmap
is completely empty, so there won't be
anything to filter out.

One way to address this is call migration_bitmap_sync
in the IO handler, while VCPU is stopped,
then make sure to filter out pages before the next
migration_bitmap_sync.

Another is to start filtering out pages upon
IO handler, but make sure to flush the queue
before calling migration_bitmap_sync.


> > Dave
> > 
> > >
> > > Liang
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >Liang
> > --
> > Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-24 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-22  7:43 [Qemu-devel] [RFC Design Doc]Speed up live migration by skipping free pages Liang Li
2016-03-22 10:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-23  6:05   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-23 14:08     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-24  1:19       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24  9:48         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-24 10:16           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 10:29             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-24 14:33               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 14:44                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-24 15:16                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 15:18                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-24 15:25                       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 15:27                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-24 15:39                       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 15:47                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-24 15:59                           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-22 19:05 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-23  6:48   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24  1:24     ` Wei Yang
2016-03-24  9:00       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-24 10:09         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 10:23           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-24 14:50             ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 15:11               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2016-03-24 15:53                 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 15:56                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-24 16:05                     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 16:25                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-24 17:49                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-24 22:16                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-25  1:59                             ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-25  1:32                           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-18 11:08                           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-18 11:29                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 14:36                               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-18 15:38                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19  2:20                                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-19 19:12                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-25 10:56                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 19:05                             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-20  3:22                               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-20  8:10                                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-25  1:32                         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-01 10:54   ` Amit Shah
2016-04-05  1:49     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-23  1:37 ` Wei Yang
2016-03-23  7:18   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-23  9:46     ` Wei Yang
2016-03-23 14:35       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24  0:52         ` Wei Yang
2016-03-24  1:32           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24  1:56             ` Wei Yang
2016-03-23 16:53     ` Eric Blake
2016-03-23 21:41       ` Wei Yang
2016-03-24  1:23       ` Li, Liang Z

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