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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com>
Cc: "rkagan@virtuozzo.com" <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kenel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kenel.org>,
	"ehabkost@redhat.com" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
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	"quintela@redhat.com" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"simhan@hpe.com" <simhan@hpe.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"jitendra.kolhe@hpe.com" <jitendra.kolhe@hpe.com>,
	"mohan_parthasarathy@hpe.com" <mohan_parthasarathy@hpe.com>,
	"amit.shah@redhat.com" <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@huawei.com>,
	"rth@twiddle.net" <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC Design Doc]Speed up live migration by skipping free pages
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:56:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160324175503-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F2CBF3009FA73547804AE4C663CAB28E0415C07D@shsmsx102.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 03:53:25PM +0000, Li, Liang Z wrote:
> > > > > Not very complex, we can implement like this:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Set all the bits in the migration_bitmap_rcu->bmap to 1 2.
> > > > > Clear all the bits in ram_list.
> > > > > dirty_memory[DIRTY_MEMORY_MIGRATION]
> > > > > 3. Send the get_free_page_bitmap request 4. Start to send pages to
> > > > > destination and check if the free_page_bitmap is ready
> > > > >     if (is_ready) {
> > > > >           filter out the free pages from  migration_bitmap_rcu->bmap;
> > > > >           migration_bitmap_sync();
> > > > >     }
> > > > >      continue until live migration complete.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is that right?
> > > >
> > > > The order I'm trying to understand is something like:
> > > >
> > > >     a) Send the get_free_page_bitmap request
> > > >     b) Start sending pages
> > > >     c) Reach the end of memory
> > > >       [ is_ready is false - guest hasn't made free map yet ]
> > > >     d) normal migration_bitmap_sync() at end of first pass
> > > >     e) Carry on sending dirty pages
> > > >     f) is_ready is true
> > > >       f.1) filter out free pages?
> > > >       f.2) migration_bitmap_sync()
> > > >
> > > > It's f.1 I'm worried about.  If the guest started generating the
> > > > free bitmap before (d), then a page marked as 'free' in f.1 might
> > > > have become dirty before (d) and so (f.2) doesn't set the dirty
> > > > again, and so we can't filter out pages in f.1.
> > > >
> > >
> > > As you described, the order is incorrect.
> > >
> > > Liang
> > 
> > 
> > So to make it safe, what is required is to make sure no free list us outstanding
> > before calling migration_bitmap_sync.
> > 
> > If one is outstanding, filter out pages before calling migration_bitmap_sync.
> > 
> > Of course, if we just do it like we normally do with migration, then by the
> > time we call migration_bitmap_sync dirty bitmap is completely empty, so
> > there won't be anything to filter out.
> > 
> > One way to address this is call migration_bitmap_sync in the IO handler,
> > while VCPU is stopped, then make sure to filter out pages before the next
> > migration_bitmap_sync.
> > 
> > Another is to start filtering out pages upon IO handler, but make sure to flush
> > the queue before calling migration_bitmap_sync.
> > 
> 
> It's really complex, maybe we should switch to a simple start,  just skip the free page in
> the ram bulk stage and make it asynchronous?
> 
> Liang

You mean like your patches do? No, blocking bulk migration until guest
response is basically a non-starter.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-24 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-22  7:43 [Qemu-devel] [RFC Design Doc]Speed up live migration by skipping free pages Liang Li
2016-03-22 10:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-23  6:05   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-23 14:08     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-24  1:19       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24  9:48         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-24 10:16           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 10:29             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-24 14:33               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 14:44                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-24 15:16                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 15:18                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-24 15:25                       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 15:27                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-24 15:39                       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 15:47                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-24 15:59                           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-22 19:05 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-23  6:48   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24  1:24     ` Wei Yang
2016-03-24  9:00       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-24 10:09         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 10:23           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-24 14:50             ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 15:11               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-24 15:53                 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 15:56                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2016-03-24 16:05                     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24 16:25                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-24 17:49                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-24 22:16                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-25  1:59                             ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-25  1:32                           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-18 11:08                           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-18 11:29                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 14:36                               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-18 15:38                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19  2:20                                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-19 19:12                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-25 10:56                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 19:05                             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-20  3:22                               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-20  8:10                                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-25  1:32                         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-01 10:54   ` Amit Shah
2016-04-05  1:49     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-23  1:37 ` Wei Yang
2016-03-23  7:18   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-23  9:46     ` Wei Yang
2016-03-23 14:35       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24  0:52         ` Wei Yang
2016-03-24  1:32           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-24  1:56             ` Wei Yang
2016-03-23 16:53     ` Eric Blake
2016-03-23 21:41       ` Wei Yang
2016-03-24  1:23       ` Li, Liang Z

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