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* [Qemu-devel] Ballooning on TPS!=HPS hosts
@ 2016-03-31 18:00 Dr. David Alan Gilbert
  2016-04-01 10:52 ` Amit Shah
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Dr. David Alan Gilbert @ 2016-03-31 18:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lcapitulino, amit.shah; +Cc: lvivier, aarcange, drjones, qemu-devel

Hi,
  I was reading the balloon code and am confused as to how/if ballooning
works on hosts where the host page size is larger than the
target page size.

static void balloon_page(void *addr, int deflate)
{
#if defined(__linux__)
    if (!qemu_balloon_is_inhibited() && (!kvm_enabled() ||
                                         kvm_has_sync_mmu())) {
        qemu_madvise(addr, TARGET_PAGE_SIZE,
                deflate ? QEMU_MADV_WILLNEED : QEMU_MADV_DONTNEED);
    }
#endif
}

The virtio-balloon code only does stuff through ballon_page,
and an madvise DONTNEED should fail if you try and do it on
a size smaller than the host page size.  So does ballooning work on
Power/ARM?

Am I misunderstanding this?

Of course looking at the above we won't actually generate an error since
we don't check the return of qemu_madvise.

We have three sizes:
    a) host page size
    b) target page size
    c) VIRTIO_BALLOON_PFN_SHIFT

 c == 12 (4k) for everyone
 

    1) I think the virtio-balloon code needs to coallesce adjecent requests
      and call balloon_page on whole chunks at once passing a length.
    2) why does balloon_page use TARGET_PAGE_SIZE, ignoring anything else
       shouldn't it be 1 << VIRTIO_BALLOON_PFN_SHIFT ?
    3) I'm guessing the guest kernel doesn't know the host page size, so
       how can it know what size chunks of balloon to work in?

Dave

--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

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* Re: [Qemu-devel] Ballooning on TPS!=HPS hosts
  2016-03-31 18:00 [Qemu-devel] Ballooning on TPS!=HPS hosts Dr. David Alan Gilbert
@ 2016-04-01 10:52 ` Amit Shah
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Amit Shah @ 2016-04-01 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dr. David Alan Gilbert
  Cc: lvivier, aarcange, drjones, qemu-devel, Virtualization List,
	lcapitulino

CC'ing virtualization list.

On (Thu) 31 Mar 2016 [19:00:24], Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> Hi,
>   I was reading the balloon code and am confused as to how/if ballooning
> works on hosts where the host page size is larger than the
> target page size.
> 
> static void balloon_page(void *addr, int deflate)
> {
> #if defined(__linux__)
>     if (!qemu_balloon_is_inhibited() && (!kvm_enabled() ||
>                                          kvm_has_sync_mmu())) {
>         qemu_madvise(addr, TARGET_PAGE_SIZE,
>                 deflate ? QEMU_MADV_WILLNEED : QEMU_MADV_DONTNEED);
>     }
> #endif
> }
> 
> The virtio-balloon code only does stuff through ballon_page,
> and an madvise DONTNEED should fail if you try and do it on
> a size smaller than the host page size.  So does ballooning work on
> Power/ARM?
> 
> Am I misunderstanding this?

I think you're right.  Guess no one's tested this in such scenarios
yet.

> Of course looking at the above we won't actually generate an error since
> we don't check the return of qemu_madvise.

... at least we can deflate the balloon in case the madvise fails, so
the guest can use the pages it's given us.

> We have three sizes:
>     a) host page size
>     b) target page size
>     c) VIRTIO_BALLOON_PFN_SHIFT
> 
>  c == 12 (4k) for everyone
>  
> 
>     1) I think the virtio-balloon code needs to coallesce adjecent requests
>       and call balloon_page on whole chunks at once passing a length.
>     2) why does balloon_page use TARGET_PAGE_SIZE, ignoring anything else
>        shouldn't it be 1 << VIRTIO_BALLOON_PFN_SHIFT ?
>     3) I'm guessing the guest kernel doesn't know the host page size, so
>        how can it know what size chunks of balloon to work in?

Thanks,

		Amit

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