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From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: marc.mari.barcelo@gmail.com, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Why is SeaBIOS used with -kernel?
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 09:04:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160405080454.GU32728@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160405043836.GB4183@noname.redhat.com>

On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 06:38:36AM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 01.04.2016 um 13:20 hat Richard W.M. Jones geschrieben:
> > 
> > My patch, plus the configuration and comments from your patch,
> > combined.  Plus I tested it with libguestfs boot-analysis and it works
> > and is still fast.
> > 
> > Integrating this so it happens automatically when the user adds
> > -kernel on x86 seems quite complicated.  The only way I could do it
> > was by adding #ifdef defined(__x86_64__) etc to vl.c, which doesn't
> > seem very nice.  The problem is the machine type code doesn't know
> > that you're using -kernel.
> 
> I would actually find it rather surprising to get differernt BIOSes and
> therefore potentially different behaviour for -kernel and for booting
> from an image. Even if we made sure that Linux really never touches the
> parts that you disable in bios-fast.bin, remember that -kernel is not
> only for Linux, but for arbitrary kernels.
> 
> Requiring an explicit -bios option like you do now seems to make most
> sense to me: The default behaves the same as a normal boot, but if you
> are one of the cases that do need that additional boot speed, you can do
> that and consciously sacrifice the features.

OK so this reminds me of the second problem.  How to detect what
bioses are available, given a qemu binary.  It would be nice if qemu
had an option like:

  qemu -bios \?

Of course we can try to scan /usr/share/qemu/bios.*, except that
Fedora installs extra ROMs in /usr/share/seabios/ (I'm not exactly
sure how qemu deals with those), and the path is different for other
distros and other qemu binaries.

Rich.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-05  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-19 20:31 [Qemu-devel] Why is SeaBIOS used with -kernel? Richard W.M. Jones
2016-03-21  7:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-03-21  8:37   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-03-21  9:40     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-03-31  9:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-03-31 16:22   ` Kevin O'Connor
     [not found]     ` <20160331221039.GA32728@redhat.com>
2016-03-31 22:17       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-03-31 22:44         ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01  7:55           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01  8:03             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01  8:47               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01  8:51                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01  8:57                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01  9:05                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01  8:02           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01  8:11             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01  8:14               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01  8:24                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01  8:44                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01  8:47                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01  8:49                       ` Vasiliy Tolstov
2016-04-01  9:16                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-01  9:18                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-04-01 10:17                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 11:07                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-04-01 11:11                           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 11:20                             ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 11:21                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01 11:26                                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-05  4:38                               ` Kevin Wolf
2016-04-05  8:04                                 ` Richard W.M. Jones [this message]
2016-04-05  8:11                                   ` Kevin Wolf
2016-04-05  9:19                                     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-05  9:26                                       ` Kevin Wolf
2016-04-01 11:32                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-04-01 11:49                               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 15:35                                 ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01 16:03                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01 18:41                                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 18:59                                     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 19:04                                       ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01 19:10                                         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 19:15                                           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 19:44                                             ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01 20:25                                               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 20:05                                     ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01 20:46                                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 22:25                                         ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-02  7:51                                           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-02  5:30                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01 15:08                           ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01 14:58                     ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01 15:06                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 15:14                         ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01  8:19               ` Richard W.M. Jones

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