From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: marc.mari.barcelo@gmail.com, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Why is SeaBIOS used with -kernel?
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 09:04:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160405080454.GU32728@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160405043836.GB4183@noname.redhat.com>
On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 06:38:36AM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 01.04.2016 um 13:20 hat Richard W.M. Jones geschrieben:
> >
> > My patch, plus the configuration and comments from your patch,
> > combined. Plus I tested it with libguestfs boot-analysis and it works
> > and is still fast.
> >
> > Integrating this so it happens automatically when the user adds
> > -kernel on x86 seems quite complicated. The only way I could do it
> > was by adding #ifdef defined(__x86_64__) etc to vl.c, which doesn't
> > seem very nice. The problem is the machine type code doesn't know
> > that you're using -kernel.
>
> I would actually find it rather surprising to get differernt BIOSes and
> therefore potentially different behaviour for -kernel and for booting
> from an image. Even if we made sure that Linux really never touches the
> parts that you disable in bios-fast.bin, remember that -kernel is not
> only for Linux, but for arbitrary kernels.
>
> Requiring an explicit -bios option like you do now seems to make most
> sense to me: The default behaves the same as a normal boot, but if you
> are one of the cases that do need that additional boot speed, you can do
> that and consciously sacrifice the features.
OK so this reminds me of the second problem. How to detect what
bioses are available, given a qemu binary. It would be nice if qemu
had an option like:
qemu -bios \?
Of course we can try to scan /usr/share/qemu/bios.*, except that
Fedora installs extra ROMs in /usr/share/seabios/ (I'm not exactly
sure how qemu deals with those), and the path is different for other
distros and other qemu binaries.
Rich.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-05 8:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-19 20:31 [Qemu-devel] Why is SeaBIOS used with -kernel? Richard W.M. Jones
2016-03-21 7:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-03-21 8:37 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-03-21 9:40 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-03-31 9:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-03-31 16:22 ` Kevin O'Connor
[not found] ` <20160331221039.GA32728@redhat.com>
2016-03-31 22:17 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-03-31 22:44 ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01 7:55 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 8:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01 8:47 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 8:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01 8:57 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 9:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01 8:02 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 8:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01 8:14 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 8:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01 8:44 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 8:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01 8:49 ` Vasiliy Tolstov
2016-04-01 9:16 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-01 9:18 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-04-01 10:17 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 11:07 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-04-01 11:11 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 11:20 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 11:21 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01 11:26 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-05 4:38 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-04-05 8:04 ` Richard W.M. Jones [this message]
2016-04-05 8:11 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-04-05 9:19 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-05 9:26 ` Kevin Wolf
2016-04-01 11:32 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-04-01 11:49 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 15:35 ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01 16:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01 18:41 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 18:59 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 19:04 ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01 19:10 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 19:15 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 19:44 ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01 20:25 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 20:05 ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01 20:46 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 22:25 ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-02 7:51 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-02 5:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-01 15:08 ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01 14:58 ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01 15:06 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-01 15:14 ` Kevin O'Connor
2016-04-01 8:19 ` Richard W.M. Jones
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