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From: Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Jeff Darcy <jdarcy@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, Vijay Bellur <vbellur@redhat.com>,
	pkarampu@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>,
	kdhananj@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH for-2.6 2/2] block/gluster: prevent data loss after i/o error
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 09:10:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160406131053.GB7329@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160406115159.GG5098@noname.redhat.com>

On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 01:51:59PM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 06.04.2016 um 13:41 hat Kevin Wolf geschrieben:
> > Am 06.04.2016 um 13:19 hat Ric Wheeler geschrieben:
> > > 
> > > We had a thread discussing this not on the upstream list.
> > > 
> > > My summary of the thread is that I don't understand why gluster
> > > should drop cached data after a failed fsync() for any open file.
> > 
> > It certainly shouldn't, but it does by default. :-)
> > 
> > Have a look at commit 3fcead2d in glusterfs.git, which at least
> > introduces an option to get usable behaviour:
> > 
> >     { .key = {"resync-failed-syncs-after-fsync"},
> >       .type = GF_OPTION_TYPE_BOOL,
> >       .default_value = "off",
> >       .description = "If sync of \"cached-writes issued before fsync\" "
> >                      "(to backend) fails, this option configures whether "
> >                      "to retry syncing them after fsync or forget them. "
> >                      "If set to on, cached-writes are retried "
> >                      "till a \"flush\" fop (or a successful sync) on sync "
> >                      "failures. "
> >                      "fsync itself is failed irrespective of the value of "
> >                      "this option. ",
> >     },
> > 
> > As you can see, the default is still to drop cached data, and this is
> > with the file still opened. qemu needs to make sure that this option is
> > set, and if Jeff's comment in the code below is right, there is no way
> > currently to make sure that the option isn't silently ignored.
> > 
> > Can we get some function that sets an option and fails if the option is
> > unknown? Or one that queries the state after setting an option, so we
> > can check whether we succeeded in switching to the mode we need?
> > 
> > > For closed files, I think it might still happen but this is the same
> > > as any file system (and unlikely to be the case for qemu?).
> > 
> > Our problem is only with open images. Dropping caches for files that
> > qemu doesn't use any more is fine as far as I'm concerned.
> > 
> > Note that our usage can involve cases where we reopen a file with
> > different flags, i.e. first open a second file descriptor, then close
> > the first one. The image was never completely closed here and we would
> > still want the cache to preserve our data in such cases.
> 
> Hm, actually, maybe we should just call bdrv_flush() before reopening an
> image, and if an error is returned, we abort the reopen. It's far from
> being a hot path, so the overhead of a flush shouldn't matter, and it
> seems we're taking an unnecessary risk without doing this.
>

[I seemed to have been dropped from the cc]

Are you talking about doing a bdrv_flush() on the new descriptor (i.e.
reop_s->glfs)?  Because otherwise, we already do this in
bdrv_reopen_prepare() on the original fd.  It happens right before the call
to drv->bdrv_reopen_prepare():


2020     ret = bdrv_flush(reopen_state->bs);
2021     if (ret) {
2022         error_setg_errno(errp, -ret, "Error flushing drive");
2023         goto error;
2024     }
2025 
2026     if (drv->bdrv_reopen_prepare) {
2027         ret = drv->bdrv_reopen_prepare(reopen_state, queue, &local_err);

> 
> > > I will note that Linux in general had (still has I think?) the
> > > behavior that once the process closes a file (or exits), we lose
> > > context to return an error to. From that point on, any failed IO
> > > from the page cache to the target disk will be dropped from cache.
> > > To hold things in the cache would lead it to fill with old data that
> > > is not really recoverable and we have no good way to know that the
> > > situation is repairable and how long that might take. Upstream
> > > kernel people have debated this, the behavior might be tweaked for
> > > certain types of errors.
> > 
> > That's fine, we just don't want the next fsync() to signal success when
> > in reality the cache has thrown away our data. As soon as we close the
> > image, there is no next fsync(), so you can do whatever you like.
> > 
> > Kevin
> > 
> > > On 04/06/2016 07:02 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > > >[ Adding some CCs ]
> > > >
> > > >Am 06.04.2016 um 05:29 hat Jeff Cody geschrieben:
> > > >>Upon receiving an I/O error after an fsync, by default gluster will
> > > >>dump its cache.  However, QEMU will retry the fsync, which is especially
> > > >>useful when encountering errors such as ENOSPC when using the werror=stop
> > > >>option.  When using caching with gluster, however, the last written data
> > > >>will be lost upon encountering ENOSPC.  Using the cache xlator option of
> > > >>'resync-failed-syncs-after-fsync' should cause gluster to retain the
> > > >>cached data after a failed fsync, so that ENOSPC and other transient
> > > >>errors are recoverable.
> > > >>
> > > >>Signed-off-by: Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>
> > > >>---
> > > >>  block/gluster.c | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >>  configure       |  8 ++++++++
> > > >>  2 files changed, 35 insertions(+)
> > > >>
> > > >>diff --git a/block/gluster.c b/block/gluster.c
> > > >>index 30a827e..b1cf71b 100644
> > > >>--- a/block/gluster.c
> > > >>+++ b/block/gluster.c
> > > >>@@ -330,6 +330,23 @@ static int qemu_gluster_open(BlockDriverState *bs,  QDict *options,
> > > >>          goto out;
> > > >>      }
> > > >>+#ifdef CONFIG_GLUSTERFS_XLATOR_OPT
> > > >>+    /* Without this, if fsync fails for a recoverable reason (for instance,
> > > >>+     * ENOSPC), gluster will dump its cache, preventing retries.  This means
> > > >>+     * almost certain data loss.  Not all gluster versions support the
> > > >>+     * 'resync-failed-syncs-after-fsync' key value, but there is no way to
> > > >>+     * discover during runtime if it is supported (this api returns success for
> > > >>+     * unknown key/value pairs) */
> > > >Honestly, this sucks. There is apparently no way to operate gluster so
> > > >we can safely recover after a failed fsync. "We hope everything is fine,
> > > >but depending on your gluster version, we may now corrupt your image"
> > > >isn't very good.
> > > >
> > > >We need to consider very carefully if this is good enough to go on after
> > > >an error. I'm currently leaning towards "no". That is, we should only
> > > >enable this after Gluster provides us a way to make sure that the option
> > > >is really set.
> > > >
> > > >>+    ret = glfs_set_xlator_option (s->glfs, "*-write-behind",
> > > >>+                                           "resync-failed-syncs-after-fsync",
> > > >>+                                           "on");
> > > >>+    if (ret < 0) {
> > > >>+        error_setg_errno(errp, errno, "Unable to set xlator key/value pair");
> > > >>+        ret = -errno;
> > > >>+        goto out;
> > > >>+    }
> > > >>+#endif
> > > >We also need to consider the case without CONFIG_GLUSTERFS_XLATOR_OPT.
> > > >In this case (as well as theoretically in the case that the option
> > > >didn't take effect - if only we could know about it), a failed
> > > >glfs_fsync_async() is fatal and we need to stop operating on the image,
> > > >i.e. set bs->drv = NULL like when we detect corruption in qcow2 images.
> > > >The guest will see a broken disk that fails all I/O requests, but that's
> > > >better than corrupting data.
> > > >
> > > >Kevin
> > > 
> > 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-06 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-06  3:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.6 0/2] Bug fixes for gluster Jeff Cody
2016-04-06  3:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.6 1/2] block/gluster: return correct error value Jeff Cody
2016-04-06 15:00   ` Niels de Vos
2016-04-06  3:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.6 2/2] block/gluster: prevent data loss after i/o error Jeff Cody
2016-04-06 11:02   ` Kevin Wolf
2016-04-06 11:19     ` Ric Wheeler
2016-04-06 11:41       ` Kevin Wolf
2016-04-06 11:51         ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kevin Wolf
2016-04-06 13:10           ` Jeff Cody [this message]
2016-04-06 13:20             ` Kevin Wolf
2016-04-07  7:48               ` Pranith Kumar Karampuri
2016-04-11  4:26                 ` Raghavendra Gowdappa
2016-05-09  6:38                   ` Raghavendra Talur
2016-05-09  8:02                     ` Kevin Wolf
2016-04-06 12:44     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jeff Cody
2016-04-06 14:47       ` Niels de Vos
2016-04-06 16:05         ` Jeff Cody
2016-04-07 16:17     ` Jeff Cody

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