From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ar41D-0006Ty-I0 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2016 09:42:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ar419-0005Jq-Dq for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2016 09:42:43 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:42979) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ar419-0005II-5z for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2016 09:42:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 14:42:33 +0100 From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" Message-ID: <20160415134233.GG2229@work-vm> References: <20160412175501.GB6415@work-vm> <20160413080545.GA2270@work-vm> <20160413114103.GB2270@work-vm> <20160413125053.GC2270@work-vm> <20160413205132.GG26364@redhat.com> <20160414123441.GF2252@work-vm> <20160414162230.GC9976@redhat.com> <20160415125236.GA3376@node.shutemov.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160415125236.GA3376@node.shutemov.name> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] post-copy is broken? List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" Cc: Andrea Arcangeli , kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, "Li, Liang Z" , Amit Shah , "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" , "quintela@redhat.com" , linux-mm@kvack.org * Kirill A. Shutemov (kirill@shutemov.name) wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:22:30PM -0400, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > Adding linux-mm too, > > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 01:34:41PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote: > > > * Andrea Arcangeli (aarcange@redhat.com) wrote: > > > > > > > The next suspect is the massive THP refcounting change that went > > > > upstream recently: > > > > > > > As further debug hint, can you try to disable THP and see if that > > > > makes the problem go away? > > > > > > Yep, this seems to be the problem (cc'ing in Kirill). > > > > > > 122afea9626ab3f717b250a8dd3d5ebf57cdb56c - works (just before Kirill disables THP) > > > 61f5d698cc97600e813ca5cf8e449b1ea1c11492 - breaks (when THP is reenabled) > > > > > > It's pretty reliable; as you say disabling THP makes it work again > > > and putting it back to THP/madvise mode makes it break. And you need > > > to test on a machine with some free ram to make sure THP has a chance > > > to have happened. > > > > > > I'm not sure of all of the rework that happened in that series, > > > but my reading of it is that splitting of THP pages gets deferred; > > > so I wonder if when I do the madvise to turn THP off, if it's actually > > > still got THP pages and thus we end up with a whole THP mapped > > > when I'm expecting to be userfaulting those pages. > > > > Good thing at least I didn't make UFFDIO_COPY THP aware yet so there's > > less variables (as no user was interested to handle userfaults at THP > > granularity yet, and from userland such an improvement would be > > completely invisible in terms of API, so if an user starts doing that > > we can just optimize the kernel for it, criu restore could do that as > > the faults will come from disk-I/O, when network is involved THP > > userfaults wouldn't have a great tradeoff with regard to the increased > > fault latency). > > > > I suspect there is an handle_userfault missing somewhere in connection > > with trans_huge_pmd splits (not anymore THP splits) that you're doing > > with MADV_DONTNEED to zap those pages in the destination that got > > redirtied in source during the last precopy stage. Or more simply > > MADV_DONTNEED isn't zapping all the right ptes after the trans huge > > pmd got splitted. > > > > The fact the page isn't splitted shouldn't matter too much, all we care > > about is the pte triggers handle_userfault after MADV_DONTNEED. > > > > The userfaultfd testcase in the kernel isn't exercising this case > > unfortunately, that should probably be improved too, so there is a > > simpler way to reproduce than running precopy before postcopy in qemu. > > I've tested current Linus' tree and v4.5 using qemu postcopy test case for > both x86-64 and i386 and it never failed for me: > > /x86_64/postcopy: first_byte = 7e last_byte = 7d hit_edge = 1 OK > OK > /i386/postcopy: first_byte = f6 last_byte = f5 hit_edge = 1 OK > OK > > I've run it directly, setting relevant QTEST_QEMU_BINARY. Interesting; it's failing reliably for me - but only with a reasonably freshly booted machine (so that the pages get THPd). Dave > > -- > Kirill A. Shutemov -- Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK