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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
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	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
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	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
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Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] fixup! virtio: convert to use DMA api
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 13:27:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160419130732-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXGC9X6fndftzUKKQ76TXSARHotW8Kz3KcO6opQ-oLaqA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 12:24:15PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 11:29 AM, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote:
> > For x86, you *can* enable virtio-behind-IOMMU if your DMAR tables tell
> > the truth, and even legacy kernels ought to cope with that.
> > FSVO 'ought to' where I suspect some of them will actually crash with a
> > NULL pointer dereference if there's no "catch-all" DMAR unit in the
> > tables, which puts it back into the same camp as ARM and Power.
> 
> I think x86 may get a bit of a free pass here.  AFAIK the QEMU IOMMU
> implementation on x86 has always been "experimental", so it just might
> be okay to change it in a way that causes some older kernels to OOPS.
> 
> --Andy

Since it's experimental, it might be OK to change *guest kernels*
such that they oops on old QEMU.
But guest kernels were not experimental - so we need a QEMU mode that
makes them work fine. The more functionality is available in this QEMU
mode, the betterm because it's going to be the default for a while. For
the same reason, it is preferable to also have new kernels not crash in
this mode.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-19 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-18 11:47 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] fixup! virtio: convert to use DMA api Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 11:58 ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-18 13:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 14:03     ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-18 14:23       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 15:22         ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-18 15:30           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 15:51             ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-18 16:27               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 18:29                 ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-18 19:24                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 10:27                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2016-04-19 16:02                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 16:09                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 16:12                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 16:20                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 16:26                               ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-19 17:49                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 18:01                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 20:16                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 20:27                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 20:54                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 21:07                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-20 13:14                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-20 15:43                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19  9:13                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 14:44                     ` Alex Williamson
2016-04-19 16:00                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 16:04                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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