From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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qemu-block@nongnu.org, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
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Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] fixup! virtio: convert to use DMA api
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 13:27:15 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160419130732-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXGC9X6fndftzUKKQ76TXSARHotW8Kz3KcO6opQ-oLaqA@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 12:24:15PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 11:29 AM, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> wrote:
> > For x86, you *can* enable virtio-behind-IOMMU if your DMAR tables tell
> > the truth, and even legacy kernels ought to cope with that.
> > FSVO 'ought to' where I suspect some of them will actually crash with a
> > NULL pointer dereference if there's no "catch-all" DMAR unit in the
> > tables, which puts it back into the same camp as ARM and Power.
>
> I think x86 may get a bit of a free pass here. AFAIK the QEMU IOMMU
> implementation on x86 has always been "experimental", so it just might
> be okay to change it in a way that causes some older kernels to OOPS.
>
> --Andy
Since it's experimental, it might be OK to change *guest kernels*
such that they oops on old QEMU.
But guest kernels were not experimental - so we need a QEMU mode that
makes them work fine. The more functionality is available in this QEMU
mode, the betterm because it's going to be the default for a while. For
the same reason, it is preferable to also have new kernels not crash in
this mode.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-19 10:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-18 11:47 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] fixup! virtio: convert to use DMA api Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 11:58 ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-18 13:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 14:03 ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-18 14:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 15:22 ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-18 15:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 15:51 ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-18 16:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-18 18:29 ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-18 19:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 10:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2016-04-19 16:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 16:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 16:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 16:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 16:26 ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-19 17:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 18:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 20:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 20:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 20:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 21:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-20 13:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-20 15:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 9:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-19 14:44 ` Alex Williamson
2016-04-19 16:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-19 16:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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