From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
"viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"quintela@redhat.com" <quintela@redhat.com>,
"amit.shah@redhat.com" <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"dgilbert@redhat.com" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"agraf@suse.de" <agraf@suse.de>,
"borntraeger@de.ibm.com" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH kernel 1/2] mm: add the related functions to build the free page bitmap
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 16:48:54 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160421134854.GA6858@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F2CBF3009FA73547804AE4C663CAB28E0418339F@shsmsx102.ccr.corp.intel.com>
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 01:41:24AM +0000, Li, Liang Z wrote:
> > Cc: Rik van Riel; viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> > quintela@redhat.com; amit.shah@redhat.com; pbonzini@redhat.com;
> > dgilbert@redhat.com; linux-mm@kvack.org; kvm@vger.kernel.org; qemu-
> > devel@nongnu.org; agraf@suse.de; borntraeger@de.ibm.com
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH kernel 1/2] mm: add the related functions to build the
> > free page bitmap
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 03:02:09PM +0000, Li, Liang Z wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2016-04-19 at 22:34 +0800, Liang Li wrote:
> > > > > The free page bitmap will be sent to QEMU through virtio interface
> > > > > and used for live migration optimization.
> > > > > Drop the cache before building the free page bitmap can get more
> > > > > free pages. Whether dropping the cache is decided by user.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > How do you prevent the guest from using those recently-freed pages
> > > > for something else, between when you build the bitmap and the live
> > > > migration completes?
> > >
> > > Because the dirty page logging is enabled before building the bitmap,
> > > there is no need to prevent the guest from using the recently-freed
> > pages ...
> > >
> > > Liang
> >
> > Well one point of telling host that page is free is so that it can mark it clean
> > even if it was dirty previously.
> > So I think you must pass the pages to guest under the lock.
>
> Thanks! You mean save the free page bitmap in host pages?
No, I literally mean don't release &zone->lock before you pass
the list of pages to host.
> > This will allow host optimizations such as marking these pages
> > MADV_DONTNEED or MADV_FREE
> > Otherwise it's all too tied up to a specific usecase - you aren't telling host that
> > a page is free, you are telling it that a page was free in the past.
> >
>
> Then we should prevent the guest from using those recently-freed pages,
> before doing the MADV_DONTNEED or MADV_FREE, or the pages in the
> free page bitmap may be not free any more. In which case we will do something
> like this? Balloon?
>
> Liang
>
Wouldn't keeping &zone->lock make sure these pages aren't used?
> > --
> > MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-21 13:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-19 14:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH kernel 0/2] speed up live migration by skipping free pages Liang Li
2016-04-19 14:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH kernel 1/2] mm: add the related functions to build the free page bitmap Liang Li
2016-04-19 14:54 ` Rik van Riel
2016-04-19 15:02 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-19 15:26 ` Rik van Riel
2016-04-20 0:57 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-19 16:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-20 1:41 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-21 13:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2016-04-22 1:36 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-22 9:48 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-04-22 13:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-25 3:11 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-25 10:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-26 3:21 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-04-19 14:56 ` kbuild test robot
2016-04-19 16:01 ` kbuild test robot
2016-04-19 16:14 ` kbuild test robot
2016-04-19 14:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH kernel 2/2] virtio-balloon: extend balloon driver to support the new feature Liang Li
2016-04-19 16:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-25 6:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH kernel 0/2] speed up live migration by skipping free pages Amit Shah
2016-04-25 11:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-25 12:08 ` Amit Shah
2016-04-25 12:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-25 13:17 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
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