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From: Neo Jia <cjia@nvidia.com>
To: Jike Song <jike.song@intel.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"kraxel@redhat.com" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ruan, Shuai" <shuai.ruan@intel.com>,
	"Lv, Zhiyuan" <zhiyuan.lv@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 3/3] VFIO Type1 IOMMU change: to support with iommu and without iommu
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 09:02:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160510160257.GA4125@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5731933B.90508@intel.com>

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 03:52:27PM +0800, Jike Song wrote:
> On 05/05/2016 05:27 PM, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> >> From: Song, Jike
> >>
> >> IIUC, an api-only domain is a VFIO domain *without* underlying IOMMU
> >> hardware. It just, as you said in another mail, "rather than
> >> programming them into an IOMMU for a device, it simply stores the
> >> translations for use by later requests".
> >>
> >> That imposes a constraint on gfx driver: hardware IOMMU must be disabled.
> >> Otherwise, if IOMMU is present, the gfx driver eventually programs
> >> the hardware IOMMU with IOVA returned by pci_map_page or dma_map_page;
> >> Meanwhile, the IOMMU backend for vgpu only maintains GPA <-> HPA
> >> translations without any knowledge about hardware IOMMU, how is the
> >> device model supposed to do to get an IOVA for a given GPA (thereby HPA
> >> by the IOMMU backend here)?
> >>
> >> If things go as guessed above, as vfio_pin_pages() indicates, it
> >> pin & translate vaddr to PFN, then it will be very difficult for the
> >> device model to figure out:
> >>
> >> 	1, for a given GPA, how to avoid calling dma_map_page multiple times?
> >> 	2, for which page to call dma_unmap_page?
> >>
> >> --
> > 
> > We have to support both w/ iommu and w/o iommu case, since
> > that fact is out of GPU driver control. A simple way is to use
> > dma_map_page which internally will cope with w/ and w/o iommu
> > case gracefully, i.e. return HPA w/o iommu and IOVA w/ iommu.
> > Then in this file we only need to cache GPA to whatever dmadr_t
> > returned by dma_map_page.
> > 
> 
> Hi Alex, Kirti and Neo, any thought on the IOMMU compatibility here?

Hi Jike,

With mediated passthru, you still can use hardware iommu, but more important
that part is actually orthogonal to what we are discussing here as we will only
cache the mapping between <gfn (iova if guest has iommu), (qemu) va>, once we 
have pinned pages later with the help of above info, you can map it into the
proper iommu domain if the system has configured so.

Thanks,
Neo

> 
> --
> Thanks,
> Jike
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-10 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-02 18:40 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] Add vGPU support Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-02 18:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 1/3] vGPU Core driver Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-03 22:43   ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-04  2:45     ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-04 16:57       ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-05  8:58         ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-04  2:58     ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-12  8:22       ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-04 13:31     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-05  9:06       ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-05 10:44         ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-05 12:07           ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-05 12:57             ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-11  6:37               ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-06 12:14         ` Jike Song
2016-05-06 16:16           ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-09 12:12             ` Jike Song
2016-05-02 18:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 2/3] VFIO driver for vGPU device Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-03 22:43   ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-04  3:23     ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-04 17:06       ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-04 21:14         ` Neo Jia
2016-05-05  4:42           ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-05  9:24         ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-05 20:27           ` Neo Jia
2016-05-11  6:45         ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-11 20:10           ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-12  0:59             ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-04 16:25     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-02 18:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 3/3] VFIO Type1 IOMMU change: to support with iommu and without iommu Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-03 10:40   ` Jike Song
2016-05-03 22:43   ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-04  3:39     ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-05  6:55     ` Jike Song
2016-05-05  9:27       ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-10  7:52         ` Jike Song
2016-05-10 16:02           ` Neo Jia [this message]
2016-05-11  9:15             ` Jike Song
2016-05-11 22:06               ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-12  4:11                 ` Jike Song
2016-05-12 19:49                   ` Neo Jia
2016-05-13  2:41                     ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-13  6:22                       ` Jike Song
2016-05-13  6:43                         ` Neo Jia
2016-05-13  7:30                           ` Jike Song
2016-05-13  7:42                             ` Neo Jia
2016-05-13  7:45                               ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-13  8:31                                 ` Neo Jia
2016-05-13  9:23                                   ` Jike Song
2016-05-13 15:50                                     ` Neo Jia
2016-05-16  6:57                                       ` Jike Song
2016-05-13  6:08                     ` Jike Song
2016-05-13  6:41                       ` Neo Jia
2016-05-13  7:13                         ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-13  7:38                           ` Neo Jia
2016-05-13  8:02                             ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-13  8:41                               ` Neo Jia
2016-05-12  8:00                 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-12 19:05                   ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-12 20:12                     ` Neo Jia
2016-05-13  9:46                       ` Jike Song
2016-05-13 15:48                         ` Neo Jia
2016-05-16  2:27                           ` Jike Song
2016-05-13  3:55                     ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-13 16:16                       ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-13  7:10                     ` Dong Jia
2016-05-13  7:24                       ` Neo Jia
2016-05-13  8:39                         ` Dong Jia
2016-05-13  9:05                           ` Neo Jia
2016-05-19  7:28                             ` Dong Jia
2016-05-20  3:21                               ` Tian, Kevin
2016-06-06  6:59                                 ` Dong Jia
2016-06-07  2:47                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2016-06-07  7:04                                     ` Dong Jia
2016-05-05  7:51     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-05-04  1:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] Add vGPU support Tian, Kevin
2016-05-04  6:17   ` Neo Jia
2016-05-04 17:07     ` Alex Williamson

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