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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>
Cc: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, lersek@redhat.com, ehabkost@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 2/4] pci: reserve 64 bit MMIO range for PCI hotplug
Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 18:06:45 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160518180456-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <573C81AD.7080603@redhat.com>

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 05:52:29PM +0300, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote:
> On 05/18/2016 05:42 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 04:31:46PM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> >>On Wed, 18 May 2016 17:12:09 +0300
> >>Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On 05/18/2016 05:11 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>>On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 03:59:29PM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> >>>>>On Sun, 15 May 2016 22:23:32 +0300
> >>>>>Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Using the firmware assigned MMIO ranges for 64-bit PCI window
> >>>>>>leads to zero space for hot-plugging PCI devices over 4G.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>PC machines can use the whole CPU addressable range after
> >>>>>>the space reserved for memory-hotplug.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Signed-off-by: Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>
> >>>>>that patch also has side effect of unconditionally adding
> >>>>>QWordMemory() resource in PCI0._CRS
> >>>>>on all machine types with QEMU generated ACPI tables.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Have you tested that it won't break boot of legacy OSes
> >>>>>(XP, WS2003, old linux with 32bit kernel)?
> >>>>
> >>>>It's almost sure it break it.
> >>>>Maybe you can check _REV in _CRS to work around this for XP.
> >>>
> >>>I'll try it.
> >>but only after you check if just presence of QWord would crash XP,
> >>so in case it doesn't crash we would keep _CRS simple static
> >>structure.
> >>
> >>I very vaguely recall that XP ignored QWord in PCI0._CRS,
> >>but it was long time ago so it won't hurt to recheck.
> >
> >I played with different guests (32 and 64 bit)
> >at some point.
> >
> >Generally, windows tends to crash when CRS resources exceed the
> >supported limits
> >of physical memory (sometimes with weird off by one errors,
> >e.g. win7 32 bit seems to survive with a 36 bit pci hole even though
> >this means the max address is 2^37-1 which it can't address).
> >
> >This might depend on CPU as well.
> 
> It seems QEMU returns 40-bit as CPU addressable bits, but I might got it wrong.
> 
> >
> >Which makes me ask: why don't we fix this in BIOS?
> >If you want it to allocate a large window, do it.
> 
> I don't follow, BIOS can assign resources to PCI devices, but how to
> specify a MMIO range for hot-plug? Add it to the CRS of the host-bridge, right?
> 
> Thanks,
> Marcel
> 
> [...]

Ah I forgot on PC there's no register for this. On Q35 there is.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-18 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-15 19:23 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 0/4] pci: better support for 64-bit MMIO allocation Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-15 19:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 1/4] hw/pc: extract reserved memory end computation to a standalone function Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-16  8:13   ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-15 19:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 2/4] pci: reserve 64 bit MMIO range for PCI hotplug Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-16  8:24   ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-16 10:14     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-16 14:19       ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-18 14:07         ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-18 14:26           ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-18 14:33             ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-18 13:59   ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-18 14:10     ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-05-18 14:11     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-18 14:11     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-05-18 14:12       ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-18 14:31         ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-18 14:33           ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-18 14:42           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-05-18 14:52             ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-18 15:06               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2016-05-18 14:14   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-05-18 14:43     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-18 14:57       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-05-18 15:01         ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-18 15:30           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-05-15 19:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 3/4] acpi: refactor pxb crs computation Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-15 19:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 4/4] hw/apci: handle 64-bit MMIO regions correctly Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-16 11:19   ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-16 11:30     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-18 14:16   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-05-18 14:30     ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-18 13:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2 0/4] pci: better support for 64-bit MMIO allocation Igor Mammedov
2016-05-18 14:09   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-05-18 14:38     ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-18 14:44       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-05-19  7:40         ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-18 14:22   ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-05-19  9:04     ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-19 20:23       ` Marcel Apfelbaum

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