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From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, peter.maydell@linaro.org,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net, blauwirbel@gmail.com,
	mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk, qemu-arm@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 1/8] target-i386: cpu: move features logic that requires CPUState to realize time
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 18:56:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160602185655.20d7c7e0@nial.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160602143826.GD19055@thinpad.lan.raisama.net>

On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 11:38:26 -0300
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 11:59:30AM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:43:09 -0300
> > Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> >   
> > > > diff --git a/target-i386/cpu.c b/target-i386/cpu.c
> > > > index 3fbc6f3..6159a7f 100644
> > > > --- a/target-i386/cpu.c
> > > > +++ b/target-i386/cpu.c
> > > > @@ -1932,6 +1932,11 @@ static inline void feat2prop(char *s)
> > > >      }
> > > >  }
> > > >  
> > > > +/* Features to be added */  
> > > 
> > > Please add something like "Features to be added. Will be replaced
> > > by global variables in the future".
> > >   
> > > > +static FeatureWordArray plus_features = { 0 };
> > > > +/* Features to be removed */
> > > > +static FeatureWordArray minus_features = { 0 };
> > > > +  
> > > 
> > > I see that this hack is replaced by the following patches, but is
> > > there an easy way to remove the CPUState argument from
> > > x86_cpu_parse_featurestr() before we introduce these static
> > > variables? (No problem if there's no way to do that, as long as
> > > the static variables are explicitly documented as a temporary
> > > hack)  
> > It's hack to keep legacy +- semantic (i.e. it overrides feat1=x,feat2)
> > local to x86 that probably would stay here forever.
> > I should add comment that explains why +- can't be replaced
> > with normal properties.  
> 
> Oh, I assumed it would be temporary. In that case, I would like
> to avoid adding the static variables if possible.
> 
> > 
> > I don't plan to replace plus/minus_features with anything nor to
> > make this variables a global ones to spread +- x86/sparc legacy
> > format everywhere.  
> 
> Can't the +/- semantics be emulated by simply registering
> plus_features/minus_features after the other global properties
> are registered inside x86_cpu_parse_featurestr()?
it could be done, at the first glance it will take 2 extra parsing passes

1: copy featurestr, parse feat=x,feat
2: copy featurestr, parse +feat
3: copy featurestr, parse -feat

but that probably will complicate way to disable +-feat handling in future,
with current static vars it's just a matter of specifying compat-prop
for X86CPU driver in appropriate machine type.
So I'd leave it as is unless you insist on doing it like you suggested above.
 
> >  
> > What I would do though before enabling -device/device_add for X86CPU is
> > to disable +- handling for new machine types so that CPUs would
> > follow generic property semantic of device used everywhere else.  
> 
> We can't do that unless we give libvirt (and users that have
> their own scripts) time to adapt to the new syntax
leaving it enabled will lead to mixed semantics in combination
with device_add that will be even more confusing to users
if users will use both:
 for example: -cpu cpu,-featx and -device cpu,featx=on
That's why I'm suggesting to make a clean break in new machine
type with error saying to replace legacy +-feat with canonical one.
For old machine types nothing would break as it would still use
legacy syntax and legacy cpu-add, with device_add disabled.

We probably can fix libvirt in sync with this QEMU release
if it still uses +- syntax.

> (and we warn users that newer QEMU versions will require newer libvirt).
yep we should do it in release notes.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-02 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-01 16:37 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/8] cpus: make "-cpu cpux, features" global properties Igor Mammedov
2016-06-01 16:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 1/8] target-i386: cpu: move features logic that requires CPUState to realize time Igor Mammedov
2016-06-01 17:43   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-02  9:59     ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-02 14:38       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-02 16:56         ` Igor Mammedov [this message]
2016-06-02 17:34           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-02 18:23             ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-02 18:43               ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-03 10:13             ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-03 19:26               ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-04 16:44                 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-01 16:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 2/8] target-i386: cpu: move xcc->kvm_required check to reaize time Igor Mammedov
2016-06-01 17:46   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-02 10:02     ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-01 16:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 3/8] target-i386: cpu: use cpu_generic_init() in cpu_x86_init() Igor Mammedov
2016-06-01 18:08   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-01 16:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 4/8] target-i386: cpu: consolidate calls of object_property_parse() in x86_cpu_parse_featurestr Igor Mammedov
2016-06-01 18:46   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-02 12:22     ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-02 14:42       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-02 14:53       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-02 15:05         ` Peter Krempa
2016-06-02 16:31           ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-03  7:30             ` Peter Krempa
2016-06-03  9:37               ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-03 19:36                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-02 16:32         ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-02 16:55           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] target-i386: Remove xlevel & hv-spinlocks option fixups Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-02 21:07             ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Eric Blake
2016-06-01 16:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 5/8] target-sparc: cpu: use sparc_cpu_parse_features() directly Igor Mammedov
2016-06-01 16:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 6/8] cpu: use CPUClass->parse_features() as convertor to global properties Igor Mammedov
2016-06-01 18:54   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-02 10:06     ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-02 14:41       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-01 16:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 7/8] arm: virt: parse cpu_model only once Igor Mammedov
2016-06-01 16:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 8/8] pc: parse cpu features " Igor Mammedov
2016-06-01 18:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/8] cpus: make "-cpu cpux, features" global properties Peter Maydell
2016-06-01 18:51   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-02 20:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2016-06-03 12:06   ` Jiri Denemark
2016-06-03 12:14     ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found] ` <201606022044.u52KaIkv017063@mx0a-001b2d01.pphosted.com>
2016-06-03  0:02   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-03  6:36     ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]     ` <20160603083621.6547bde4@thinkpad-w530>
2016-06-03  9:20       ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-03 10:18         ` David Hildenbrand
2016-06-03 19:54       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-06  9:59         ` David Hildenbrand

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