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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-block@nongnu.org, famz@redhat.com, jcody@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/17] block: Convert common I/O path to BdrvChild
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:31:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160621113146.GE4520@noname.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d069ef27-68df-406e-9a2b-7263e693aa6b@redhat.com>

Am 21.06.2016 um 13:01 hat Paolo Bonzini geschrieben:
> On 21/06/2016 12:56, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > Am 21.06.2016 um 11:47 hat Paolo Bonzini geschrieben:
> >> I still fail to understand what is the rationale for this change.  The
> >> API is weird; you read from a disk, not from an edge, and in fact the
> >> first thing all the APIs do is dereference the BdrvChild...
> >>
> >> The assertions are nice, but I'm not sure it's a good idea to design a
> >> whole API around them.
> > 
> > Do you see a problem with such an API, though? If there is no reason not
> > to have the advantages, as small as they may seem, why not take them?
> 
> I don't see a reason not to take them; I don't see any red flags, but
> there are some yellow flags (the kinda weird API) that I don't
> understand and I hope you can explain.
> 
> Thinking more about it, it's perfectly possible that this is just a
> combination of block/io.c's growth by accretion and the well-known fact
> "naming pseudo-OOP member functions in C sucks".
> 
> In other words, if you sell me this as "let's add some member functions
> to BdrvChild and use them", I can buy it.  Perhaps the only thing to do
> then is to rename functions and design a consistent naming.

Hm, I never thought about it this way, but I think it actually makes
sense.

As we want to represent a graph where both nodes and edges can have
attributes and methods, OOP-wise both of them are objects, namely BDS
and BdrvChild.

So we have some BDS A that has a Child B, and Child B in turn has a
BDS C. What we used to do is that A asks B for the node it points to
(C), and then directly calls a method of C. After the conversion, A
calls a method of B, which in turn forwards the request by calling a
method of C, which is much more straightforward and ideally even allows
the node that B points to to remain private (we're not quite there,
though).

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-21 11:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-21  9:21 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/17] block: Convert common I/O path to BdrvChild Kevin Wolf
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/17] vvfat: Use BdrvChild for s->qcow Kevin Wolf
2016-06-22 16:54   ` Max Reitz
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/17] blkreplay: Convert to byte-based I/O Kevin Wolf
2016-06-22 17:03   ` Max Reitz
2016-06-22 17:15   ` Eric Blake
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/17] vhdx: Some more BlockBackend use in vhdx_create() Kevin Wolf
2016-06-22 17:08   ` Max Reitz
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/17] block: Convert bdrv_co_readv() to BdrvChild Kevin Wolf
2016-06-25 15:07   ` Max Reitz
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/17] block: Convert bdrv_co_writev() " Kevin Wolf
2016-06-25 15:14   ` Max Reitz
2016-06-27  8:56     ` Kevin Wolf
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/17] block: Convert bdrv_aio_readv() " Kevin Wolf
2016-06-25 15:16   ` Max Reitz
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/17] block: Convert bdrv_aio_writev() " Kevin Wolf
2016-06-25 15:20   ` Max Reitz
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/17] block: Convert bdrv_co_do_readv/writev " Kevin Wolf
2016-06-25 15:26   ` Max Reitz
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/17] block: Move bdrv_commit() to block/commit.c Kevin Wolf
2016-06-24 15:37   ` Eric Blake
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] block: Use BlockBackend for I/O in bdrv_commit() Kevin Wolf
2016-06-25 15:34   ` Max Reitz
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/17] block: Convert bdrv_read() to BdrvChild Kevin Wolf
2016-06-27 13:24   ` Max Reitz
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/17] block: Convert bdrv_write() " Kevin Wolf
2016-06-27 13:44   ` Max Reitz
2016-06-27 13:47     ` Max Reitz
2016-06-29 12:11       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 " Kevin Wolf
2016-06-29 15:22         ` Max Reitz
2016-06-29 15:33           ` Kevin Wolf
2016-06-29 15:37             ` Max Reitz
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/17] block: Convert bdrv_pread(v) " Kevin Wolf
2016-06-27 14:55   ` Max Reitz
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/17] block: Convert bdrv_pwrite(v/_sync) " Kevin Wolf
2016-06-27 15:07   ` Max Reitz
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/17] block: Convert bdrv_pwrite_zeroes() " Kevin Wolf
2016-06-27 15:12   ` Max Reitz
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/17] block: Convert bdrv_prwv_co() " Kevin Wolf
2016-06-27 15:19   ` Max Reitz
2016-06-21  9:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/17] block: Convert bdrv_co_preadv/pwritev " Kevin Wolf
2016-06-21  9:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/17] block: Convert common I/O path " Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-21 10:56   ` Kevin Wolf
2016-06-21 11:01     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-21 11:31       ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2016-06-22  8:37         ` Fam Zheng
2016-06-28 13:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-06-29 11:58   ` Kevin Wolf

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