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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Default for phys-addr-bits? (was Re: [PATCH 4/5] x86: Allow physical address bits to be set)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 18:12:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160630171233.GE2683@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1467303289.15123.102.camel@redhat.com>

* Gerd Hoffmann (kraxel@redhat.com) wrote:
> > So that's mapped at an address beyond host phys-bits.
> > And it hasn't failed/crashed etc - but I guess maybe nothing is using that 2G space?
> 
> root@fedora ~# dmesg | grep Surface
> [    4.830095] [drm] qxl: 2048M of Surface memory size
> 
> qxl bar 4 (64bit) and qxl bar 1 (32bit) are the same thing.  The 64bit
> bar can be alot larger obviously.  The 32bit bar is just an alias for
> the first portion of the 64bit bar.  So I guess qxl just falls back to
> use bar 1 instead of bar 4 because ioremap() on bar 4 fails.

Hmm for me it's saying it mapped 64M on the setup with 64T maxmem and 48bit phys-bits;
even though the bar is showing it as OK; how is the guest ioremap detecting a problem?

> > Obviously 128T is a bit silly for maxmem at the moment, however I was worrying what
> > happens with 36/39/40bit hosts, and it's not unusual to pick a maxmem that's a few TB
> > even if the VMs you're initially creating are only a handful of GB. (oVirt/RHEV seems to use
> > a 4TB default for maxmem).
> 
> Oh, ok.  Should be fixed I guess.
> 
> > Still, this only hits as a problem if you hit the combination of:
> >    a) You use large PCI bars
> 
> ovmf will map all 64bit bars high, even without running out of 32bit
> address space.  And with virtio 1.0 pretty much every virtual machine
> will have 64bit bars.

Hmm OK let me think about this; using current BIOS+old virtio+host phys-bits
on a 36bit host, with maxmem=4T would apparently work because
nothing would actually get mapped that high.

The same with OVMF would work as well, because generally you wouldn't have
any 64bit bars; but then you turn on virtio 1.0 and.. well then what happens?
The guest sees it's 36bit phys-address bits so linux probably drops the
bars associated with the virtio?  Hmm.

With current downstream qemu's 40bit physical address bit you'd
get those bar's mapped; so it might break badly - except if
we can figure out what causes my 2GB qxl bar not to happen
as at the start of this message.

Dave

> cheers,
>   Gerd
> 
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-30 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-16 17:12 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] x86: Physical address limit patches Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-16 17:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] BIT_RANGE convenience macro Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-16 17:23   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-16 17:24     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-16 18:01   ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-16 18:05     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-20 14:11     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-20 14:17       ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-16 17:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] x86: Mask mtrr mask based on CPU physical address limits Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-16 19:59   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17  8:23     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-17 12:13     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-16 17:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] x86: fill high bits of mtrr mask Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-16 20:14   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17  7:47     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 12:46       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 13:01         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 13:41           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 14:25             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 15:27               ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 15:29                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 15:35                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 13:51           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-17 14:19             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17  8:53     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-16 17:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] x86: Allow physical address bits to be set Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-16 17:26   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-16 18:09     ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-16 20:24   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17  8:15     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-17  8:43       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17  9:17         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-17  9:52           ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-17 11:20             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-17 16:20               ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-06-17 16:07             ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-06-19 16:13               ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-06-20 10:42                 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-06-20 11:13                   ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-06-17  9:37       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-17  9:54         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 13:18       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 13:38         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 15:19           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-17 15:28             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 15:49               ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-21 19:44                 ` [Qemu-devel] Default for phys-addr-bits? (was Re: [PATCH 4/5] x86: Allow physical address bits to be set) Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-22 12:41                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-22 14:24                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-06-22 14:33                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-22 14:44                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-06-22 14:48                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-22 15:02                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-06-22 22:44                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-22 23:23                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-06-22 23:45                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-23  8:40                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-23 16:38                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-24  5:55                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-24 23:12                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-29 16:42                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-30  6:10                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-30 10:59                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-30 16:14                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-06-30 17:12                                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2016-07-01 19:03                                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-06-22 22:40                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-22 23:15                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-06-19  3:36           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] x86: Allow physical address bits to be set Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-06-20  7:04             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-17 14:24         ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-06-16 17:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] x86: Set physical address bits based on host Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git)
2016-06-17  7:25   ` Igor Mammedov

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