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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com,
	"Michael Roth" <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 16/17] qapi: Tweak QmpInputVisitor to optionally do string conversion
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:16:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160714141657.GH18778@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57879BED.6090002@redhat.com>

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 08:04:29AM -0600, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 07/14/2016 07:03 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> 
> >>> I'm not really a huge fan of the approach there. IMHO the
> >>> input visitor should strictly operate in "all native types"
> >>> or "all string types" mode. The way you've done it here
> >>> means that users can actually mix & match strings vs native
> >>> types for each individual parameter :-(
> >>>
> >>> IMHO, I'd suggest you try to parse netdev_add args with
> >>> it in "all native types" mode, if that fails, then re-parse
> >>> in "all string types" mode.
> >>
> >> Sadly, this idea won't work. Without this series, the existing QMP
> >> command 'netdev_add' takes mixed integers and strings in a single call,
> >> by virtue of converting QObject into QemuOpts and back into QObject.
> > 
> > Ok, so lemme check I understand. The original QObject has properties
> > which are integers, but with existing code QMP allows them to be passed
> > as strings or ints, converts them to QemuOpts which makes them all
> > strings and converts them back to QObject leaving them all as strings.
> 
> Yes, the existing code (using 'gen':false) just passes an entire QObject
> to hand-written code; the hand-written code converted everything to
> QemuOpts (which flattens both integers and strings into options), then
> expanded QemuOpts back into QObject (strings-only).
> 
> > 
> > You've now got rid of the QObject -> QemuOpts conversion, so we're
> > not string-ifying everything, and so have to cope with arbitrary
> > mix directly.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > 
> >> Forcing the parser to allow only integers or only strings would reject
> >> current uses of netdev_add, and we don't yet have a good idea whether
> >> any existing clients were depending on that behavior.
> >>
> >> Also, see patch 17/17 - the easiest way to implement a relaxed QMP parse
> >> is by setting a single flag which controls which visitor constructor is
> >> used.  Your idea of parsing once with integer-only, then falling back to
> >> parse a second time with string-only, would complicate the generator to
> >> have to create two different visitors, rather than passing a single
> >> boolean parameter through to the single visitor constructor.
> > 
> > So I don't think a simple boolean flag is desirable, as we have 3 distinct
> > scenarios:
> > 
> >  1. Strongly typed only
> >  2. String conversion only
> >  3. Strongly typed, with string conversion fallback
> > 
> > My current patch provides 1 + 2, your alternative patch provides 1 + 3.
> > If we use option 3, in cases which only actually need option 2, then we
> > are potentially introducing more scenarios where arbitrarily mixed
> > types are accepted.  IOW, I think we must implement 1, 2 and 3 and avoid
> > using 3 except where absolutely needed.
> 
> 3 is a superset of 2, and your command-line conversion is the only case
> where we can achieve 2.  That is, code dealing with QMP can only choose
> between 1 and 3, based on whether the QAPI .json file used
> 'autocast':true for back-compat reasons (the only candidates are
> 'netdev_add' and 'device_add').  And code dealing with command line
> parsing can only choose 2 (QemuOpts is string-only), but parsing
> string-only via 2 is no different than the result achieved from parsing
> strongly-typed with string fallback via 3.
> 
> I still don't buy the fact that we need a string-only parser at the
> moment, but it would not be hard to change the 'bool autocast' into a
> tri-state enum, and then make the implementation specifically honor 1,
> 2, or 3 based on the enum value.

FYI, I just copied you on a patch that enables us to easily support
all 3 options.


Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-14 14:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-14  3:50 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v9 00/17] qapi netdev_add introspection (post-introspection cleanups subset F) Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 01/17] net: use Netdev instead of NetClientOptions in client init Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 02/17] qapi: Require all branches of flat union enum to be covered Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 03/17] qapi: Special case c_name() for empty type Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 04/17] qapi: Hide tag_name data member of variants Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 05/17] qapi: Add type.is_empty() helper Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 06/17] qapi: Drop useless gen_err_check() Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 07/17] qapi-event: Simplify visit of non-implicit data Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 08/17] qapi: Plumb in 'boxed' to qapi generator lower levels Eric Blake
2016-07-14 14:17   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 09/17] qapi: Implement boxed types for commands/events Eric Blake
2016-07-14 14:26   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-07-14 16:23     ` Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 10/17] block: Simplify block_set_io_throttle Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 11/17] block: Simplify drive-mirror Eric Blake
2016-07-14 22:28   ` Eric Blake
2016-07-14 22:37     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9.5 " Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 12/17] qapi: Change Netdev into a flat union Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 13/17] net: Use correct type for bool flag Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 14/17] net: Complete qapi-fication of netdev_add Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 15/17] option: make parse_option_bool/number non-static Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 16/17] qapi: Tweak QmpInputVisitor to optionally do string conversion Eric Blake
2016-07-14  8:04   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-07-14 12:43     ` Eric Blake
2016-07-14 13:03       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-07-14 14:04         ` Eric Blake
2016-07-14 14:16           ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2016-07-14 14:25             ` Eric Blake
2016-07-14  3:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 17/17] qapi: Restore autocast behavior in 'netdev_add' Eric Blake
2016-07-14 16:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.7 v9 00/17] qapi netdev_add introspection (post-introspection cleanups subset F) Markus Armbruster
2016-07-15  7:13   ` Markus Armbruster

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