From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>,
bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com, groug@kaod.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
abologna@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/2] spapr: Reverse order of hotpluggable cpus list
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 11:13:52 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160726011352.GG17429@voom.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160725101418.268e37ea@nial.brq.redhat.com>
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On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:14:18AM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 16:09:04 +1000
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 09:01:11AM +0200, Peter Krempa wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:00:05 +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 01:52:40PM +0200, Peter Krempa wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 19:19:19 +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> > > > > > The spapr implementation of query-hotpluggable-cpus builds the list of
> > > > > > hotpluggable cores from the end (most removed from the list head)
> > > > > > because that's the easiest way with a singly linked list. Because it
> > > > > > also traverses the possible CPU cores starting from low indexes the
> > > > > > resulting list has the cpu cores listed in reverse order by core-id.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's not generally harmful, but it means the output from "info
> > > > > > hotpluggable-cpus" is a little harder to read than it could be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Therefore, traverse the cpus in reverse order so that the final list
> > > > > > ends up in increasing-core-id order.
> > > > >
> > > > > To make this interface usable with in-order hotplug the ordering of the
> > > > > entries should be codified in the schema documentation. (see my response
> > > > > on the cover letter for justification).
> > > >
> > > > I'm not really sure what you mean by this.
> > >
> > > Currently the order of entries in reply of query-hotpluggable-cpus is
> > > arbitrary as this patch hints.
> > >
> > > If qemu won't support arbitrary order hotplug but libvirt should be able
> > > to use the new interface, then the order of replies of
> > > query-hotpluggable-cpus need to corelate (in a documented fashion) with
> > > the order we need to plug the cpus in. By not documenting any order
> > > libvirt can just guess it (by reimplementing the algorithm in qemu).
> > >
> > > I've pointed this out in a sub-thread of the cover-letter.
> >
> > So, based on Peter's comments (and others) I've concluded that the
> > cpu-add implementation in terms of the new interface isn't really
> > useful.
> >
> > However, I think this re-ordering is still a good idea, because:
> > * It makes info hotpluggable-cpus easier to read in the HMP
> >
> > * Although we certainly need a better approach to handling hotplug +
> > NUMA, correcting the order should allow the existing NUMA
> > interface to work with only as much guesswork in libvirt as we
> > already have.
> >
> > * We haven't released a qemu with query-hotpluggable-cpus yet, so we
> > shouldn't need version conditions in order to use the order.
> I've talked with Peter and meanwhile (till we have sane NUMA interface)
> libvirt will be guessing ids based on query-hotpluggable-cpus output
> sorted by socket/core/thread-id, so forward/reverse order won't really
> matter to it.
>
> Forward sorting is fine wrt 'info hotpluggable-cpus', however it might
> be better to do sorting in HMP callback so that each target won't have
> to do it nor regress command output in future or introduce another
> ordering.
>
> Considering that ordering affects only HMP won't require any compat
> glue even if it's not fixed in 2.7 release.
Hm, ok, I'll drop this patch.
>
> >
> > For that reason I've tentatively merged this patch into ppc-for-2.7.
> > It would be good to get an R-b or A-b from someone before I send a
> > pull request (which I'm hoping to do tomorrow).
> >
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-26 1:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-18 9:19 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/2] cpu-add compatibility for query-hotpluggable-cpus implementations David Gibson
2016-07-18 9:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/2] spapr: Reverse order of hotpluggable cpus list David Gibson
2016-07-19 11:52 ` Peter Krempa
2016-07-20 1:00 ` David Gibson
2016-07-20 7:01 ` Peter Krempa
2016-07-21 13:07 ` David Gibson
2016-07-21 14:30 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-07-21 14:42 ` Greg Kurz
2016-07-25 6:09 ` David Gibson
2016-07-25 8:14 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-07-26 1:13 ` David Gibson [this message]
2016-07-18 9:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/2] qmp: Implement cpu-add in terms of query-hotpluggable-cpus when available David Gibson
2016-07-18 14:01 ` Peter Krempa
2016-07-19 1:01 ` David Gibson
2016-07-19 4:02 ` Bharata B Rao
2016-07-19 7:51 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-07-19 11:50 ` Peter Krempa
2016-07-18 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/2] cpu-add compatibility for query-hotpluggable-cpus implementations Peter Krempa
2016-07-18 16:20 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-07-19 4:28 ` Bharata B Rao
2016-07-19 8:02 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-07-22 3:30 ` David Gibson
2016-07-19 11:19 ` Peter Krempa
2016-07-19 1:09 ` David Gibson
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