From: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
To: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
Peter Crosthwaite <crosthwaite.peter@gmail.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2] add migration capability to bypass the shared memory
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 09:22:58 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160810012258.GA11351@al.usersys.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1470790447-83284-1-git-send-email-jiangshanlai@gmail.com>
On Wed, 08/10 08:54, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> When the migration capability 'bypass-shared-memory'
> is set, the shared memory will be bypassed when migration.
>
> It is the key feature to enable several excellent features for
> the qemu, such as qemu-local-migration, qemu-live-update,
> extremely-fast-save-restore, vm-template, vm-fast-live-clone,
> yet-another-post-copy-migration, etc..
>
> The philosophy behind this key feature and the advanced
> key features is that a part of the memory management is
> separated out from the qemu, and let the other toolkits
> such as libvirt, runv(https://github.com/hyperhq/runv/)
> or the next qemu-cmd directly access to it, manage it,
> provide features to it.
>
> The hyperhq(http://hyper.sh http://hypercontainer.io/)
> introduced the feature vm-template(vm-fast-live-clone)
> to the hyper container for several months, it works perfect.
> (see https://github.com/hyperhq/runv/pull/297)
>
> The feature vm-template makes the containers(VMs) can
> be started in 130ms and save 80M memory for every
> container(VM). So that the hyper containers are fast
> and high-density as normal containers.
>
> In current qemu command line, shared memory has
> to be configured via memory-object. Anyone can add a
> -mem-path-share to the qemu command line for combining
> with -mem-path for this feature. This patch doesn’t include
> this change of -mem-path-share.
>
> Advanced features:
> 1) qemu-local-migration, qemu-live-update
> Set the mem-path on the tmpfs and set share=on for it when
> start the vm. example:
> -object \
> memory-backend-file,id=mem,size=128M,mem-path=/dev/shm/memory,share=on \
> -numa node,nodeid=0,cpus=0-7,memdev=mem
>
> when you want to migrate the vm locally (after fixed a security bug
> of the qemu-binary, or other reason), you can start a new qemu with
> the same command line and -incoming, then you can migrate the
> vm from the old qemu to the new qemu with the migration capability
> 'bypass-shared-memory' set. The migration will migrate the device-state
> *ONLY*, the memory is the origin memory backed by tmpfs file.
>
> 2) extremely-fast-save-restore
> the same above, but the mem-path is on the persistent file system.
>
> 3) vm-template, vm-fast-live-clone
> the template vm is started as 1), and paused when the guest reaches
> the template point(example: the guest app is ready), then the template
> vm is saved. (the qemu process of the template can be killed now, because
> we need only the memory and the device state files (in tmpfs)).
>
> Then we can launch one or multiple VMs base on the template vm states,
> the new VMs are started without the “share=on”, all the new VMs share
> the initial memory from the memory file, they save a lot of memory.
> all the new VMs start from the template point, the guest app can go to
> work quickly.
>
> The new VM booted from template vm can’t become template again,
> if you need this unusual chained-template feature, you can write
> a cloneable-tmpfs kernel module for it.
>
> The libvirt toolkit can’t manage vm-template currently, in the
> hyperhq/runv, we use qemu wrapper script to do it. I hope someone add
> “libvrit managed template” feature to libvirt.
>
> 4) yet-another-post-copy-migration
> It is a possible feature, no toolkit can do it well now.
> Using nbd server/client on the memory file is reluctantly Ok but
> inconvenient. A special feature for tmpfs might be needed to
> fully complete this feature.
> No one need yet another post copy migration method,
> but it is possible when some crazy man need it.
>
> Changed from v1:
> fix style
Thanks for sending the patch and fixing the coding style. Without having looked
at the patch, I have one meta comment here. In the future, please move the
revision log to below the --- line after the signed-off-by line. This is
because that piece of text is not necessary in the git history, so it won't be
picked up by git-am when maintainers apply it, if put there.
Also please remember to always send top level thread for new versions instead
of as a reply to v1 (i.e. don't set In-Reply-To in the header).
Thanks,
Fam
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-10 1:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-09 12:10 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] add migration capability to bypass the shared memory Lai Jiangshan
2016-08-09 13:51 ` no-reply
2016-08-09 19:12 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-08-10 0:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH V2] " Lai Jiangshan
2016-08-10 1:22 ` Fam Zheng [this message]
2016-08-10 2:22 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-08-10 3:22 ` Lai Jiangshan
2016-08-10 5:04 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-08-10 9:11 ` Juan Quintela
2016-08-11 7:11 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-08-11 14:31 ` Lai Jiangshan
2016-08-11 14:45 ` Lai Jiangshan
2017-09-21 3:41 ` Zhang Haoyu
2016-08-12 6:48 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-08-12 7:19 ` Lai Jiangshan
2017-09-25 7:42 ` Zhang Haoyu
2017-09-25 12:13 ` Zhang Haoyu
2016-08-10 1:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] " Lai Jiangshan
2016-08-10 9:03 ` Juan Quintela
2016-08-30 4:11 ` Lai Jiangshan
2016-11-18 13:01 ` Alexander Graf
2017-01-12 19:19 ` Jianjun Duan
2017-01-13 4:44 ` Lai Jiangshan
2017-01-16 17:38 ` Jianjun Duan
2017-09-21 6:33 ` Zhang Haoyu
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