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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Haozhong Zhang <haozhong.zhang@intel.com>,
	Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	gor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>, Amnon Ilan <ailan@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] Guest startup time optimization
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:45:20 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160906174414-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5fd6c789-4524-0254-6f18-2ec330acec61@redhat.com>

On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 04:21:25PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> 
> On 06/09/2016 12:48, Chao Peng wrote:
> >> As you might expect, I don't agree with removing the
> >> firmware.  There's
> >> room for much more optimization before duplicating firmware code in
> >> QEMU.  I'd rather see numbers for:
> >>
> >> 1) qboot optimizations: adopt the fw_cfg DMA interface instead of the
> >> cbfs flash hack (so that -kernel works), drop PCI bridge
> >> initialization, copy less than 64K of memory from ROM to 0xf0000;
> > 
> > I can do the evaluation on qboot. Also adding Amnon Ilan, to see if
> > there is some thing we can do for SeaBios.
> 
> For SeaBIOS we can try dropping PAM and PCI, but not much more.
> 
> I've pushed fw_cfg DMA support and some PAM  optimizations to qboot (it
> doesn't setup PAM if QEMU doesn't configure 0xf0000-0x100000 as ROM).
> I've left it for you to figure out which parts of PCI initialization can
> be removed.

I think we can expose the plug an play OS flag to guest,
upon seeing it, seabios can limit self to only
enumerating boot devices. No boot devices ->
skip pci init completely.


> >> 2) Linux optimizations: using an uncompressed image to avoid the
> >> cost of copying and decompressing.  QEMU can already load the image
> >> at the right place and the real mode stub can do little more than
> >> GDT/IDT setup.
> > 
> > This works surely. I actually followed your suggestion in v1 to make
> > kernel multiboot-compatible and then load that kernel in QEMU directly
> 
> Please try posting the multiboot patches to the upstream x86 Linux
> mailing list.  I am very interested in them, because I think it's the
> simplest way to compare qboot with direct kernel load.  And as you say,
> it might make patch 11 a little smaller and possibly more acceptable.
> 
> Paolo

      parent reply	other threads:[~2016-09-06 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-25 10:14 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] Guest startup time optimization Chao Peng
2016-08-25 10:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 01/12] pc: make smbus configurable Chao Peng
2016-09-06 20:18   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-08-25 10:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 02/12] pc: make sata configurable Chao Peng
2016-08-25 10:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 03/12] pc: make pic configurable Chao Peng
2016-08-25 10:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 04/12] pc: make pit configurable Chao Peng
2016-08-25 10:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 05/12] acpi: build static _PRT Chao Peng
2016-08-29 17:06   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-08-25 10:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 06/12] acpi: expose data structurs and functions of BIOS linker loader Chao Peng
2016-08-25 10:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 07/12] acpi: expose acpi_checksum() Chao Peng
2016-08-25 10:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 08/12] acpi: patch guest ACPI when there is no firmware Chao Peng
2016-08-25 10:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 09/12] ich9: enable pm registers " Chao Peng
2016-08-25 10:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 10/12] q35: initialize MMCFG base " Chao Peng
2016-08-25 10:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] pc: support direct loading protected/long mode kernel Chao Peng
2016-08-25 10:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 12/12] pc: skip firmware Chao Peng
2016-08-29 17:08   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-02 11:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] Guest startup time optimization Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-05  2:37   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-06 10:48   ` Chao Peng
2016-09-06 11:53     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-06 14:28       ` Chao Peng
2016-09-12 15:15         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-09-12 17:57           ` [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] " Peter Stuge
2016-09-06 14:21     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-06 14:31       ` Chao Peng
2016-09-06 14:45       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]

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