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From: "Emilio G. Cota" <cota@braap.org>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, serge.fdrv@gmail.com,
	alex.bennee@linaro.org, sergey.fedorov@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/16] cpus-common: lock-free fast path for cpu_exec_start/end
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 18:14:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160921221419.GA30386@flamenco> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <803ceaca-088a-99b8-1a43-821d3507fd9a@redhat.com>

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 20:19:18 +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
(snip)
> No, this is not true.  Barriers order stores and loads within a thread
> _and_ establish synchronizes-with edges.
> 
> In the example above you are violating causality:
> 
> - cpu0 stores cpu->running before loading pending_cpus
> 
> - because pending_cpus == 0, cpu1 stores pending_cpus = 1 after cpu0
> loads it
> 
> - cpu1 loads cpu->running after it stores pending_cpus

OK. So I simplified the example to understand this better:

cpu0			cpu1
----			----
   { A = B = 0, r0 and r1 are private variables }
x = 1			y = 1
smp_mb()		smp_mb()
r0 = y			r1 = x

Turns out this is scenario 10 here: https://lwn.net/Articles/573436/

The source of my confusion was not paying due attention to smp_mb,
which is necessary for maintaining transitivity.

> > Is there a performance (scalability) reason behind this patch?
> 
> Yes: it speeds up all cpu_exec_start/end, _not_ start/end_exclusive.
> 
> With this patch, as long as there are no start/end_exclusive (which are
> supposed to be rare) there is no contention on multiple CPUs doing
> cpu_exec_start/end.
> 
> Without it, as CPUs increase, the global cpu_list_mutex is going to
> become a bottleneck.

I see. Scalability-wise I wouldn't expect much improvement with MTTCG
full-system, given that the iothread lock is still acquired on every
CPU loop exit (just like in KVM). However, for user-mode this should
yield measurable improvements =D

Thanks,

		E.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-21 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-19 12:50 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 00/16] cpu-exec: Safe work in quiescent state Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/16] cpus: pass CPUState to run_on_cpu helpers Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/16] cpus: Move common code out of {async_, }run_on_cpu() Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/16] cpus: Rename flush_queued_work() Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/16] linux-user: Use QemuMutex and QemuCond Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 16:26   ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-09-21 16:32     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/16] linux-user: Add qemu_cpu_is_self() and qemu_cpu_kick() Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/16] cpus-common: move CPU list management to common code Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/16] cpus-common: move CPU work item " Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 17:03   ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-09-21 17:15     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/16] cpus-common: fix uninitialized variable use in run_on_cpu Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/16] cpus-common: move exclusive work infrastructure from linux-user Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/16] docs: include formal model for TCG exclusive sections Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/16] cpus-common: always defer async_run_on_cpu work items Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/16] cpus-common: remove redundant call to exclusive_idle() Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/16] cpus-common: simplify locking for start_exclusive/end_exclusive Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 16:15   ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-09-21 16:20     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/16] cpus-common: Introduce async_safe_run_on_cpu() Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 16:08   ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-09-21 16:20     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/16] tcg: Make tb_flush() thread safe Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 16:05   ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-09-21 16:19     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 17:37       ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-09-21 18:22         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 12:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/16] cpus-common: lock-free fast path for cpu_exec_start/end Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 17:24   ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-09-21 18:19     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 22:14       ` Emilio G. Cota [this message]
2016-09-21 22:27   ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-09-22  8:46     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-19 13:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 00/16] cpu-exec: Safe work in quiescent state no-reply
2016-09-19 16:04 ` no-reply
2016-09-21 17:29 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-09-21 18:20   ` Paolo Bonzini
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-09-23  7:31 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 " Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-23  7:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/16] cpus-common: lock-free fast path for cpu_exec_start/end Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-23 18:23   ` Richard Henderson
2016-09-24 11:52     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-24 20:43       ` Richard Henderson
2016-09-26  7:20         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-26  7:28           ` Alex Bennée
2016-09-26  8:23             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-12 11:12 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 00/16] cpu-exec: Safe work in quiescent state Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-12 11:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/16] cpus-common: lock-free fast path for cpu_exec_start/end Paolo Bonzini

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